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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:56:45 -0500, "Char Jackson"
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:35:29 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

On 09/11/2012 09:58 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:54:53 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows
didn't have a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And
Ubuntu Live doesn't care and makes it's own in the Windows
partition. I have no idea why Linux needs to touch anything
it shouldn't, but it does. And when I booted Windows after
Ubuntu Live it popped up a window saying Windows Installer
and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't play
games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from
you, this reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux
Live CDs, including Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery
for better than a decade and what you describe just doesn't
happen and I'll wager has never happened. First, Linux Live
CDs don't auto-mount hard drive partitions, they must be
manually mounted by the user. Second, Linux Live CDs don't
use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap *file* by default
it uses a swap *partition* so it would have completely
flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep end
and decided to use your drive as swap on its own.
Fourth, even if it did use a swap file, that file would have
been just that, a file on the file system separate from
anything else and Windows wouldn't have cared a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant

+1

You nailed it.

Nope you both are wrong

Without corroborated evidence to the contrary, I'd say it is you
that are wrong, not the thousands of other users who have had
none of the issues you do with Ubuntu (or other) Live CDs.

and owe us an apology.

If you are ever able to produce any evidence that an Ubuntu Live
CD has trashed any system other than yours by using a Windows
swap file when it wasn't manually configured to do so, I will.
Otherwise, my assertion and characterization stands.

Yeah I get that a lot. But I am always proved to be right in the
end even if it takes years. Like that OS/2 fiasco. For two years
I was complaining to IBM and on the newsgroups that OS/2 Warp had
a stability problem. As I was getting the OS freeze up about
twice per week. I was losing tons of work because I couldn't save
anything.

And all I heard was it was just me, it's your hardware, OS/2 is
rock stable, and blah, blah, blah. Even though I knew everybody
was wrong. Then two years later IBM actually ran into it. And it
affected all machines and users. What set it off was copying and
pasting back and forth between DOS and OS/2. IBM claimed it left
the OS in an unstable state and it was just a matter of time
before it would crash. Did anybody say sorry Bill or anything?
Nope! Very typical in my experience.

IBM rightly ignored your vague declaration that "omg something is
wrong" and again rightly did not give you any credit because you
didn't actually contribute anything that would help identify the
problem or provide a solution.

Among other things, I've done software quality assurance testing
and what you are doing doesn't qualify. Documentation, debug
logs, screen captures, before and after disk images / file CRCs,
etc., verification on multiple systems, systematic elimination of
other variables to determine the actual cause of a problem that
was observed - those are (some of) the things that prove a
problem. Until and unless you provide a repeatable set of steps
to duplicate the issue, you are just waving your hands and
proclaiming that the sky is falling. Pick up the acorn, Henny
Penny, and recognize it for what it is. In this case, it is a
consequence of your own actions, not a flaw in the system.

How long have you been doing this? You can't send in a bug report
just saying "omg something is wrong". That just doesn't fly. There
are tons of other information that you have to supply. Hardware,
build, drivers, open applications, logs, etc. I sent all of that in
over a dozen times over that period of time.

If you're so experienced, why are you only giving us a flickering HD
activity LED?? Until you produce some actual test results, you've got
nothing.

+1

Sure no problem. I charge $150 per hour. So where do I send the bill
too? For free, I tell you that there is something wrong here and it
needs to be investigated.

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Bill
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