Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 11:18:49 -0700, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 10:15:03 -0700, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 20:12:33 -0700, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 22:58:23 +0000, Java Jive
wrote:

On 06/02/2019 21:48, Bill in Co wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

I've seen you mention that before, but I spend much of my
Windows 7 time in Win Explorer and I never run into those
problems.

You never run into "Access Denied" and the smoke and mirrors of
junction points?

Note that you'd be well advised to take a back-up image of the C:
drive before doing this ...

What I do is take ownership of the entire C: drive, this can be
done by rt-clcking it, choosing Security, Advanced, Owner, Edit,
Administrators, Replace on subs, OK.

This on its own may be enought to remove the 'Access denied'
message.

Then I give Administrators Full Control over every file. This has
to be done from a command prompt launched as administrator:
icacls C:\*.* /C /Q /L /T /grant Administrators:F

Then I delete the daftest junction points that lead to circular
references, for example there's one inside every user's Application
Data folder heirarchy that points back up to Application Data. The
rest I ignore.

I've never run into any scenario where I'd be tempted to do all of
that.

Yeah, but too, you said you spend more time on data drives, and not
the OS drives. That might be part of that, because I'll tell you,
it can get to be a real annoyance having to deal with all the
obfuscations and convolutions added by Windows 7 and its successors
(I do presume). None of this "impediment nonsense" exists in Windows
XP, or the preceding OS versions (unless I missed it).

The split is probably 70/30 or 60/40, so if working on the OS drive
was full of smoke and mirrors, I would have noticed back in, what,
2007? When 7 was a new OS for me? So no, I wouldn't say there's any
problem working on the OS drive. I never noticed anything annoying
and I'm not sure why you're running into problems.

Well, I think Java Jive illustrated the essence of some of those
annoyances, best. :-)


Well, no, not at all, unless I missed something. What he illustrated was
taking a sledgehammer approach to a non-issue. Taking ownership of the
entire C: drive is not what I'd call a good idea.

It's not a non issue to some of us. Like if I can't use Windows
Explorer without some incessant obfuscating shackles getting in my way,
I mean.

I still don't know what you're talking about, but you're probably
getting tired of trying to explain it.

I agree with you, though, at least I think you agree, that XP was more
user friendly than 7, and 7 was more user friendly than 8, and so on.
Windows has been getting worse with each major version for quite some
time now.

I think Java Jive pretty much covered it. If none of that registered, I'm
probably too tired to explain it. :-)