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Old January 12th 18, 08:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mark Twain wrote:
I read the reviews and this Sony seems
like what I want but it doesn't come with
a remote that I can see. I suppose I could
buy a universal remote for it.

I did check Best Buys which is allot closer
to me and the prices are about the same but I
can't find the smaller LG TV like at Frys.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...xtStoreId=1409

This seems to be the nearest I can get:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-24-c...?skuId=5734900

they do have one smaller:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insigni...?skuId=9215028

but I would rather have a LG and a bit larger.
I don't understand what open-box means?

Robert


Open box means the product was returned by a previous customer.
The staff should repack the items and verify the box contents
are there. Note that for computing devices, sometimes they
neglect to flush disk drives and the like, which means
another customer can notice flaws when starting up the
system (i.e. it already has an account defined, and user
has to do a "reset" of the OS to get it to start "fresh").

With a TV set, a former customer could flash the BIOS on the
TV to a newer version, as an example of a detail the reboxing
staff might not be familiar with. I don't know if there
are any other details with TVs or not.

*******

I found a 24" Visio with 1920x1080 screen. Remote looks goofy though.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-2...?skuId=6032516

The next time you're near your AV center, take a measuring tape
and give us some dimensions for width and height of the
"hole that is available to be filled with a TV" :-)

As for the LG, there are two prices listed. A "new"
product, and an "open box" product. You want the new one,
especially if the open box product was returned because
it had a "stuck pixel".

LCD screens come in "classes". Panels are binned at the factory,
before they get to the TV factory. These are rated according
to defects. Some products, *all* the equipment comes with
perfect panels. No defects. Other equipment, may use the
cast-offs. There could be say 5 to 10 stuck pixels.
They don't take all the defective panels out back
and smash them :-) Each manufacturer of equipment, will have
a policy page somewhere, with respect to stuck pixels.
The web page might say "we promise not to have more than
10 stuck pixels".

My second monitor, has a single stuck green pixel. Massaging it
didn't work, and it's still there. But, I got the monitor
for around $100 at the time, and I'm not complaining. That's
an example of accepting (and not returning) a product because
of a stuck pixel.

The equivalent on CRT TVs didn't happen. I don't think a TV would
have shipped with a scratch inside on a tube or a defect in
a shadow-mask. But in the LCD era, anything goes, and
consumer beware.

TV screens could be TN, IPS, PV.

TN, if you move from side to side in the room, the colors change.

TN is the cheapest panel, and the TV is at high risk to get one.

IPS works out to 178 degrees, which means you can almost be edge-on
to the screen, before the colors go weird. These specs are based on a
degree of color transition as well, so when they say 178 degrees,
maybe you really can't spot a difference at all out to 90 degrees
or so. But if you've looked at a TN laptop, you should be
familiar with the effect. TN is a bitch. My laptop, I have to
tilt the screen back at about 45 degrees from vertical,
to have "nice" color. That's the kind of crap that isn't easy
to deal with on a TV set. This is why I look for certain
specs (viewing angle 178), or panel names (IPS) when shopping.

Now post up some dimensions, so we have materials to
work with. Will the 24" screen fit ? Probably. And
I don't think there's much after that, until you hit
32" diagonal.

My purpose in getting as large a set as possible, is the
risk the screen looks "tiny" compared to your WEGA. I
fear you're not going to be happy with this, at all.
But I don't see any easy solutions, because the
industry has some pretty fixed ideas about what will
sell.

That LG has a 178 viewing angle listed, so maybe that's
good enough to get this project going.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-24-c...?skuId=5734900

LG 24LF454B-PU (No HDMI cable included, an "industry standard" of cheapness...)
Remote control (Still cannot find a picture!)

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-24LF454B-led-tv

Display Type LED TVs
PICTURE QUALITY Resolution 1366 x 768
Panel Type Wide Viewing Angle (ADS) === never heard of it
Color Gamut (CIE1931) 72%
Color Bit 8bit (6bit+FRC) === dithered panel ???
Color Depth (Number of Colors) 16.7M
Pixel pitch(mm) 0.38175 x 0.38175
Brightness (Typ.) 180 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio (Original) 1000:1 === panel contrast ratio
Contrast Ratio (DFC) 5M:1 === dropping LED intensity to make "black" color
Response Time_Typ. (GTG) 14ms
Viewing Angle (CR≥10) R/L 178 degrees, U/D 178 degrees (color shift)
Surface Treatment(Glare/non Glare) non Glare === bright light behind you won't reflect off

TV with Stand (WxHxD) 21.9" x 5.8" x 15.2"

It only has one input, so the DVD player had better work
over HDMI :-) There is no pile of connectors on the back.
Just a connector for a TV antenna, and the HDMI.

As long as the DVD player has L&R audio outputs, you
can send the movie audio to your speakers, whatever you
end up getting. The speakers inside the TV may not be
all that wonderful. You can mute the sound on the TV and
then get better sound from your speakers. And that's as long
as the DVD player has multiple things on its panel. Like
an HDMI. And L&R audio.

*******

This is what another LG remote looks like, for comparison.
Has the convention four arrow pattern 2/3 down on the remote.

https://www.amazon.com/LG-AKB7397571.../dp/B00N6FHUX6

And this would be an example of the remote style I hate.
I don't like remotes that are just a rectangular array
of buttons, because you can't find the "home row" in the
dark.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076GMMRK1/

Paul
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