On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:44:27 -0000, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 23/03/2019 20.21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 12:09:12 -0000, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 22/03/2019 17.52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 12:20:49 -0000, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 21/03/2019 21.23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 19:17:19 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:56:24 -0000, Chris
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 11:23:13 -0000, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 19/03/2019 00.16, Commander Kinsey wrote:.

You'd be hard pressed to develop anything worse than Adobe's
Acrobat
Reader. Just try printing something from it, you won't get
anything
remotely like what's on the screen. I often have to screengrab
it and
print it from Paintshop Pro.

Huh? I never had any such problem printing from adobe reader
reliably.

I have, I never get the size I expect. Easier to put it into a
photo
editor with a screengrab, then you can fit to page etc.

Pdfs are vector formats and by definition can be scaled to any size
without
losing resolution*. A pdf print dialogue box always has a
"shrink to
fit"
and/or "scale to page" option.

By taking a screenshot your rasterising the page and losing the
benefit of
the pdf.

* Unless it had been saved as raster format. But that's dumb so not
common
these days.

I think the last thing I tried to print was a calendar - I'd found a
website that generates calendars for any month and year in pdf
format. I
wanted to print most of the page, cutting off the borders, but
acrobat
reader was unable to, so I just screengrabbed. I got the
resolution of
the monitor, which is fine.

Anything should be able to print properly. PDF doesn't help here.

Actually it does. That's the whole point of the format. It is
completely
device agnostic so it doesn't matter what you're viewing it on or
printing
it with it should print as the author designed it. You often see
forms as
word files and they never print or render properly.

But what about how I want it?

That's not the main use case for pdfs. It's mainly a read-only
format -
forms excepted.

However, you can edit them in libreoffice draw or Adobe Illustrator
plus
others. Word allegedly reads them, but always makes a pig's ear of
them.

Why the hell would I want something I can't adjust before printing? I
might want only the top half, enlarged to fit the page, etc.

But PDFs are not designed for you to alter at will. They are
designed to
be printed as is, just expanded or shrinked to page.

Why design something you can't use properly? Not everyone wants things
exactly the same.

Because that is not "use properly" :-P

When I send a PDF it is print as /I/ intend, not as you intend.

Because you're more important than me? You need your head examined. I
want to print it as I want, not as you want.


It is my document. I decide. You want to edit my document? Ask for an
editable copy. I may pass it on, or I may refuse.

And that's how it is, that's the purpose of PDF, no matter how angry you
get.

People like you don't get my business.

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