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Old March 15th 19, 10:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Missing Startup progs after WU

Paul wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 07:08:11 +1100, Monty wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:40:12 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

After last night's WU to 1803 build 17134.648 several of my startup
programs are not loading.
That seems to be an old build. I updated two of my PCs a couple of
days ago and the build no is Version 1809 OS Build 17763.379


I've got one machine still on 1803. MS does not seem to want to offer
it 1809.


In the Settings Wheel : Update and Security, what does
the Windows Update History tab show ? Does it show an update
which is failed, and blocks other updates ? You can have
a "log jam", where WU is trying to get some older update
to install, and this prevents 1809 from being considered.

If you get the failed update (which is not followed by any
success entry with the same number), then you can go to
catalog.update.microsoft.com and get the MSU for that KB
via manual download. Double click it and install it.

There is usually sufficient logic (and wsusscn content) for
an MSU to figure out whether it's relevant or not. I've never
seen a case where trying to use an MSU caused a problem.

I found the "need to install 1809" was pretty aggressive
a couple days ago, and an install I didn't particularly want
updated, started to update on this machine. The cleanup
behavior is there, to "move on to the next thing".

If you've been messing around with "streams" and using the
Long Term business stream (whatever that's called today",
maybe you could break it that way. Also, in the past,
if you manually reverted the OS version (made the OS
loot C:\Windows.old and put things back), that also
functions as a "manual barrier" to upgrading. And running
a Repair Install by executing Setup.exe might be the simplest
way to move forward again.

By knowing things you've done to the OS along the way,
there may be some hint as to why.

I've also noticed, that a number of items referenced by
people on the web, concerning the Registry, and ways to
control this behavior, don't actually work. And a ton of
stuff that worked at one time, is just left there as
a "grave yard" of registry entries. Even if you did find
some registry entries that didn't match what it told
you to do on the web, it could be the OS isn't even paying
attention to those now. I used to look at those, when the
Insider Edition threw a wobbly, and fiddling that stuff as
instructed, didn't do a thing. The Insider is constantly doing
Upgrades, and is an excellent test vehicle for such.

Paul


Thanks Paul. I used my nightly backup of
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp
to replace those mysteriously lost entries and after a couple of reboots
things seem to be OK.

Why would WU not be updating some PCs to 1809 and should I be worried or
relieved that mine is one of them?

FWIW here's my recent Quality update history:

Quality Updates (21)

2019-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based
Systems (KB4489868)
Successfully installed on 14/03/19
2019-03 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version
1803 for x64—based Systems
Successfully installed on 14/03/19
2019-02 Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64—based Systems
(KB4023057)
Successfully installed on 01/03/19
2019-02 Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64—based Systems
(KB4023057)
Successfully installed on 15/02/19
2019-02 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64—based
Systems (KB4487017)
Successfully installed on 13/02/19
2019-02 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version
1803 for x64-based Systems
Successfully installed on 13/02/19
2018-10 Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based Systems
(KB4100347)
Successfully installed on 06/02/19
2018-10 Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64—based Systems
(KB4100347) (12)
Last failed install attempt on 04/02/19 - 0x80240034
2019-01 Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based Systems
(KB4023057)
Successfully installed on 18/01/19
2018-11 Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based Systems
(KB4023057) (2)
Last failed install attempt on 18/01/19 - 0x80070643
2019-01 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for \Windows 10 Version
1803 for x64-based System
Successfully installed on 10/01/19
2019-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based
Systems (KB4480966)
Successfully installed on 10/01/19

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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