On 2015-06-12 5:38 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 11/06/15 01:05, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-10 7:01 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
knuttle wrote in message


Until the advent of Ubuntu, Linux was far too much trouble (in
comparison).
Even now, Linux is just a little bit too much trouble.
I agree, Windows is ubiquitous (as is Macintosh) in the stores.

Ubuntu was indeed a Godsend and it has made Linux more acceptable for
the common user. The problem is that it still has a tremendous amount of
problems which appear after an update or two. Disappearing controls,
hardware stopped working, no longer able to boot to desktop, functions
which are visible but don't actually do anything, etc..

Spot on, in my experience. I installed Ubuntu 14.10 and several desktops
(from a magazine DVD) on a new laptop about 6 months ago. Many years
ago I had tried a liveCD on an XP desktop (Ubuntu 6?) seemed to work ok.
A couple of years later I tried version 9 also on a liveCD on the same
desktop (I forget the stupid names which seem to infest Linux, from
distros, desktops, and programs. It's one of my pet hates about Linux).
But while v6 was fine, v9 just failed to work at all, with "kernel
panic" error messages. Seems the new version just didn't like something
about the desktop hardware, which v6 had no problem with. It really put
me off Linux for years.

I was quite impressed with Ubuntu 14.10, although I didn't like Unity.
Xfce seemed the best desktop for me, although it had a couple of
annoying quirks, so I changed to KDE. That worked well enough, until the
update to Ubuntu 15.04 killed it. It also killed LXDE. Mate works, but
the desktop manager now doesn't, so I can't personalise it. Xfce
soldiers on.

I don't know how many error messages I've had, and in the 6 months I've
had the laptop I've had to do a forced cold reboot at least 6 times. I
never had to do that with Win7, and maybe that number of times with XP,
but over 9 years! I've never had a Windows Update cause a problem in all
that time. At least Linux always seems to recover from errors without
problem - it's never failed to boot.

As to the different programs, yes, much of what I used in Windows has a
Linux equivalent - sort of. It just isn't so polished. I installed WINE
to run an old program I had. And I miss IrfanView and PDF ExChange. I
believe they work with WINE, but haven't tried yet.

You'd be called a liar if you cited all of the problems you've faced
with Linux over on comp.os.linux.advocacy. In the minds of the Linux
Loser Liar's Club over there, it is absolutely impossible for the
operating system to cause the issues you've faced.

The one place I still find Linux drivers sometimes lacking is in
peripheral
hardware such as WiFi adapters and the like (mostly with Realtek chips).

How about Canon hardware?! I've spent hours trying to get an old Pixma
ip3000 printer working with Ubuntu. It half works, allowing colour
printing to paper, but to photographs, no - forget it. Wrong colours,
wrong dimensions. I've now given up, and have to use my failing Win7
laptop if I want to print any photos. I know long-term Linux users
criticise Canon for not supporting Linux, but distros should really make
it clear that there is at least one major supplier whose hardware might
not work with Linux.

With Linux, if it doesn't already work after it's plugged in, chances
are that it won't no matter what you do.

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