In message , HB writes:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , HB writes:
With the dock I've shown you, you plug the drive into one of the two slots
on top of the dock; there are connectors in the bottom of the slot which
mate with the connectors on the end of the drive. You then connect a USB
lead (which comes with the dock) from the back panel of the dock to a USB
port on a (working) PC.
OK, it will work with the Toshoiba's HD even though I don't know what kind
of drive it is?
If it's a SATA drive, i. e. has two small connectors with L-shaped
plastic guides around each, then yes. You don't need to know what make,
model, capacity, etc. it is - it will work with any SATA drive. (OK, I
suppose there _might_ be some it won't. Mine hasn't failed to work yet,
with several 2.5" SATA drives, one 3.5" [the one I use for backup], and
I think some EIDE drives.)
Next question is if the Toshiba's HD is still good - then
what? I still can't get past the "read disk error." There's still no way
to fix that problem, so a System Restore or Recovery wont be possible.
Buying a new HD and finding a MS W-7 64-bit disk that can be registered is,
from what I understand, no guarantee the Tosh' will boot.
I don't know where you've got that idea from; certainly a new HD and a
disc from which to load Windows onto it _will_ give you a working
Windows machine, if the disc can be registered ("activated" is I think
the term). Obviously we can't _guarantee_ it, but I don't think anyone
in this thread has suggested otherwise: we've established to a
_reasonable_ amount of certainty that the rest of the laptop seems OK -
certainly it booting as far as the GUI in fatdog Linux shows that the
processor, memory, graphics circuitry, and display seem to be working,
and the appearance of one of the icons on the Linux screen suggests that
the circuitry that accesses the hard disc is working - so we just don't
know if the hard disc itself is. (We haven't tested the sound, wifi, or
USB parts, but I have no reason to believe they aren't fine. They _can_
be tested from Linux if necessary, but someone else will have to tell
you how. I don't think it's necessary.)
With no help it's of no use to me. I never heard of one OS showing the
system info of another OS and fixing it, though it may be possible.
I believe it is, though I don't know enough about Linux to know the
details. Linux won't have the necessary files to repair a Windows
installation if actual Windows files are corrupted, but it can:
o interrogate the hardware of the drive to some extent
o repair things like the partition table and boot sector
Well typing that in the command prompt or whatever Linux called it did not
bring up the info shown in the online image.
See later.
The first is what we've been trying to do with fatdog's terminal and that
command that begins with s. If you enter that command, _exactly_ as Paul
specified it - so that you _don't_ get either "command not recognised" or
"wrong number of parameters" - you should get something that, when you
show it to us via a screenshot, will tell us _something_ more about the
hard drive than we know now. Similarly with the fdisk command and its
subsidiaries, as detailed by I think Java Jive.
https://postimg.org/gallery/38afbakly/ ---can you go there? Image of the
fatdog screen of what showed.
First time, you typed it with a capital S; second time, you added
"return" onto the end. What we wanted you to type was just
smartctl -a /dev/sda
.. I _think_ (you've posted a lot of posts!) you now _have_ done this -
could you add a screenshot of the results?
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I'm lost. There are 2 pages with 2 different looking electronic images. I
need BOTH of these items?
You take it out of the Toshiba, and put it into the housing (the ends of
the housing come off); there are two connectors on the back of the PCB you
can see at one end of the housing in the second picture which mate with
the two connectors on the drive. What you end up with looks very like your
Seagate drive, and is used in much the same way - you connect its USB lead
to a working PC (using two USB sockets at the PC end).
What is the PBC? I'm looking at those images still don't know which to buy
(Sorry, printed circuit board.)
shown on the 2 pages. I need both? I'm not following this since I never
No, you don't need both (see below).
saw anyone use anything like this. Where does that metal tab on the HD go?
(Not sure what you mean by that metal tab; a SATA drive just has the two
connectors. Anything else is just mounting arrangements. Post a picture
of the drive if you like, and we'll say what's what.)
The HD lays next to this thing with it's 2 cables plugged into it?
I've given you THREE ALTERNATIVE ways of connecting drives to a USB
port. IMO the best, and most expensive though even that is only
twentysomething dollars, is the dock. If you use that, it - the dock -
sits neatly on your desk, and you plug the drive into the top of it.
(With a cable from the back of the dock going to your working computer's
USB port.) The NEXT alternative is a "cable" with a power supply: with
that, things look less tidy: the HD does indeed lie on your desk with
two cables connected to it - a data one (red) that goes to the black
"plug" which connects to the USB, and a power one from the power supply.
The THIRD alternative - last time I was involved in buying one of these
it was less than two pounds - was a housing, that comes with USB cable,
and a small circuit board inside the housing: you put the drive inside
the housing, plug the circuit board into it, put the housing together
using the screws and screwdriver supplied, and end up with something
that looks like your existing Seagate external drive, other than
cosmetically (the ends are a different shape); I am sure that, in fact,
your Seagate unit has inside it just a normal 2.5" SATA drive, just
rather securely fixed so you haven't been able to get into it.
Or, you could use the ($4.04 was it?) or so cable another poster has
found; that basically does the same as the housing, other than that the
drive lays bare rather than being in a case. As long as the USB end has
_two_ USB plugs to ensure it gets enough power; it _might_ work with
only one, but it'd be a pity to discard the drive as not appearing to
work, just because it wasn't getting enough power.
All of these four do the same two things: (a) translate USB to and from
SATA, so you can read/write/control the drive from the working PC, and
(b) provide power to the drive, either from an external supply (that
comes with the kit) or from (ideally two) USB ports.
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No, the people here are NOT boring. It's all those pages and pages on this
That's good to hear!
problem I've read online. About OSI files and boot disks, and burners and
That's ISO - international standards organisation.
stopping W-10 from updating and her favorite game stopping since the
The W10 update danger has passed: about a year ago (IIRR), Microsoft
provided updates to Windows 7 that, unless you were very careful,
updated a W7 machine to W10. Two (main, anyway) outfits produced
utilities you could install to make sure this did not happen. But that's
over now, and it doesn't look likely that MS will do it again (though
you can never be sure), so it's (probably) no longer a worry.
updates, and the recent problem with OE6 not keeping passwords...... belive
That turned out to be a red herring - it wasn't OE6 (which won't run
under W7 anyway), it was an OE6 lookalike (from xsforall IIRR). And I
think even that got better (started remembering passwords again).
me, you guys are not boring compared to the reading I've done recently. :^)
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A new HD should be $70 or less, probably much less, especially if you go
for one of lower capacity than 1 TB. But only if you actually need one,
which we haven't established yet.
I'll order that "dock" tomorrow but would like to know if I also need the
thing on: https://www.ebay.com/itm/172256326228
If so I can order both.
Not if you order the dock. They are alternatives.
You might also consider getting a 2.5" SATA drive: it does rather look
as if the one in the Tosh is unwell, so would have to be replaced, but
even if it isn't, you could use it for keeping backup images on, as you
do the Seagate one.
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Is God willing to prevent evil but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"
- Epicurus -
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