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Old December 5th 04, 06:09 PM
Chuck
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Default network adapters

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:57:31 -0600, "Rick and Deb" *email_address_deleted*
wrote:

I have taken the network card out and it still shows all the adapters in
devise manager. In network connections it doesn't show anything. I still
can't uninstall. It may be a bad adapter card but I still need these out
before I put another card in don't I? Thanks Chuck and sorry about post.
Yesterday was crazy, network down so I couldn't get reports from client
computer to host to send to you. Then A drive went out


Rick / Deb,

If the list "This connection uses the following items:" shows nothing, then
that's part of the problem. The computer won't be on the network at all. My
list shows:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler (optional)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Your list of 10 network cards shows, among other things, "Network adapters / WAN
Miniport (IPX)". IPX is a redundant network protocol. If you get your TCP/IP
working properly, you don't need IPX/SPX or NetBIOS.

Try again please. What is in your list? On Sparky? On Rick?

When you physically remove a network card (or other device) from the computer,
before removing the drivers for that card, and the bindings to the drivers, you
are causing a problem. You have to remove things in this order:
1) Interfaces between application software and the drivers ("bindings").
2) The drivers.
3) The hardware device.

Do it in reverse order, and the system gets confused. Put the card back in, the
system tries to load a driver for the new card, how does the system know its the
same card as before? And you get "...Adapter #2", "...Adapter #3", etc.

So start right now, and tell me exactly what works and doesn't.
1) Can you access the internet from the host (Sparky?)?
2) Can you access the internet from the client (Rick?)?
3) Can you share files between Rick and Sparky?

And while you're answering these questions (which admittedly are redundant)
PLEASE don't go pulling network cards out of either computer, or installing or
un installing drivers. If we're going to solve your problems, I have to know
how your computer is setup, and what is working, without you changing things
during the process.

And provide updated ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste entire contents into
your next post.

BTW, THIS is what an IPConfig should look like:
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MyComp
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For
Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-D7-E2-BA
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.001.50
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.001.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.001.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.201.99.11
10.201.99.33
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:53:45
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:53:45

NOT this:
Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : RICK
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . .
.. : Broadcast IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS
Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : NoEthernet adapter Local Area Connection 11:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . .
.. : D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
00-50-BA-AE-46-F1 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . .
.. . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . .
.. : 0.0.0.0

Do you see the difference? How much easier it is to find information in the
first example? Any idea why yours came out as the second? Help us to help you.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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