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Old November 17th 18, 07:49 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
arlen michael holder
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Default Report: My first "hello world" using Android Studio freeware on Windows worked just fine (in about an hour)

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:37:21 +0000, Bill wrote:

With all this, you are racing ahead of me.


Nope. It's not a race. It's just two people helping each other, and, at the
same time, giving encouragement to ANYONE who wants to try to write Android
apps from their desktop.

I'm now just into the
beginning of Butterfield 4, having decided to set up mySQL from scratch
on the W10 machine to keep everything away from the working databases on
the main machines.


Hi Bill,
This is GREAT. I gave up on even _thinking_ about setting up my own mySQL
server (remember, I can't even pronounce it, let alone understand it).

So I will get back to Butterfield #4 only after you've been successful (so
I can stand on your shoulders).

I replaced my placeholder "app07" with a Kotlin-based app for randomizing
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8019905androidstudio85.jpg

Where the tutorial I used was the _best_ (bar none!) of _all_ we've seen!
https://youtu.be/EOfCEhWq8sg

Then I painstakingly converted it from Kotlin to Java, which took me
multiple tries, as, well, as you know ... everything about copying Android
projects on the net is either wrong or incomplete ... and then there's the
kotlin stuff to add to it (e.g., MainActivity.kt -- MainActivity.java) but
I wrote that all up (and posted it in this thread) to give back to Usenet
for what I found on the net.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0/7scIwbp5AAAJ

All your work listing all the files has been really helpful to me, so do
carry on if possible.


Hi Bill,
That's good as it's a _lot_ of effort to post the files (and all the
pictures and references takes a tone of effort also).

I do that extra effort to _help_ people ... so I'm glad it helped you!

(It's why I come down hard on those who have only "imaginary" solutions.)

The debugging problems I've had have mainly been
stupid things like additional or missing spaces in the middle of code or
problems with the case of characters. I seem to be almost blind to
these. You are obviously more organised than I'll ever be.


I'm "organized" but I made a ton of mistakes.
Always remember that the DIY always is an "ideal" case.
All the missed steps, the accidentally removed files, the typos, the wrong
buttons, etc., are conveniently absent from the DIY.

For example, this is the Kotlin-to-Java DIY I painstakingly figured out:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp...0/7scIwbp5AAAJ

It looks simple, right?
It looks so easy, right?

But it took multiple tries to figure out all the steps.
For example, it failed before I closed and then reopened Android Studio?
Why? I don't know why.
But that's why I inserted the step to close & then re-open Android Studio.

All tutorials are an "idealized" version of the real path!

The lists of videos as above are also really useful, but again, I'm
finding it hard to keep up.

I may not keep up, but I don't usually give up.


*HEADS UP BILL!*

*Do NOT do the Anna Xu tutorials!*

It's too bad, as she's WONDERFULLY clear about all her steps.
She goes SLOWLY (perfectly slowly) in explaining things.

She's fantastic. But. But but but ... dammit ... but...
Anna Xu is using Android Studio 1.5.1 on Windows.

Drat. We're on version 3.2.1, which is EXTREMELY different!

For example, Anna Xu adds a "container" "time picker", which seems simple
enough, but that _entire_ time-picker GUI doesn't exist on our version of
the IDE.

It exists _only_ in code, apparently:
o https://developer.android.com/guide/...ntrols/pickers

So, even at the _start_ of those Anna Xu videos, nothing is even close to
what we're doing. I don't know if when we're much better at this than we
are now, that we can follow (probably we can), but, for now, I have to
ditch those otherwise fantastic-seeming series of more than a dozen Anna Xu
tutorials on creating alarm clock apps.

Sigh.

PS: I have to write a novel for nanowrimo, so I am splitting my time.
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