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Old December 30th 18, 06:10 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

In article , Roger Blake
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microsoft *can't* revoke activation because they feel like it.


Of course they can. If not due to concious activity, due to bugs
in their activation system.


no, they can't.

the moment microsoft revokes someone's activation because they feel
like it is the moment a lawyer gets a phone call.

all of the tech blogs and major news outlets will run it as a lead
story. it would be suicide for microsoft to even consider it.

bugs can happen, but that's an entirely separate issue, unrelated to
activation.

you complained about iot devices not getting security updates and now
you're complaining about microsoft offering security updates. can't
have it both ways.


On my computer I want control of updates. Microsoft has largely removed
the ability to do that. In the Home version you have no control at all.
Some limited control in Pro.


microsoft, google and others are in a *much* better position to track
and manage security exploits and necessary patches than end users.

you criticized iot devices as not having any security updates, which
can pose a major risk (a valid concern), but yet you want to block
security updates on your own systems. that's a contradiction.

that's not due to microsoft deciding to deactivate a system.


Even if due to deficiencies in their activation system it is completely
unacceptable.

nothing is perfect and sometimes things don't work as expected.


Then an activation system that can lock the user out of his or her
own computer is not acceptable.

most of the time it's due to the user doing something wrong or their
system is misconfigured and refusing to accept responsibility. less
often, it's buggy software.


An activation system that can lock the user out of his or her own
computer is not acceptable.


except that the activation system doesn't do that.

users often lock themselves out, usually by forgetting their password
or ****ing up some access policy. that's not microsoft's fault.

there is no conspiracy to control what users do.


I didn't say there was a conspiracy.


you're going on as if there is one.

you're claiming that microsoft and other companies have control they
don't actually have, such as remotely enabling or disabling computers
and apps, which has all the makings of a conspiracy.

then you won't be using computers anymore, since nearly all software
today has activation in some form due to rampant piracy.

Not FOSS. None of the software that I use requires activation.


that's not representative of the industry and you know it.


Oh, how many web servers run Apache on top of Linux? You said NEARLY ALL
SOFTWARE TODAY has activation in some form. You are lying. There are thousands
of FOSS operating systems and applications used throughout the industry
and you know it.


you know quite well it meant end user software (ms office, photoshop,
etc.), not apache or other server software. only server admins deal
with apache, not the masses, and some server software *does* require
activation.

that would be you.


No, that would be you. You continue lying through your teeth.


nope, and resorting to ad hominems means you're grasping.

mainstream software, the stuff that people actually use to do real


You are lying once again. You did not say "mainstream software" - you
said "NEARLY ALL SOFTWARE TODAY." You of course have been caught in
a blatant lie, so you move the goalposts.


nope. you are trying to weasel out of not understanding what was
written.

As I said, NONE of the software that I use requires activation.


yippie for you, but you're not representative of the entire industry.

microsoft office and adobe photoshop, two of the most widely used apps
on the planet (and most widely pirated) *do* require activation.

countless other apps do as well.

i didn't say smartphone, but regardless, activation is required to use
them and other products.


You are conflating subscribing to a service with activating a piece of
software running on a device that you own. Lies, lies, and more lies.


nope.

smartphones need to be activated even without cellular service to be
used as a portable wifi-only computer, music player, etc. tablets might
not even have a cellular radio, but also require activation.
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