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Old January 7th 19, 01:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
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Whereas Macrium dispensed with their build-in Linux ISO
around Version 4 or 5 or so, and only uses WinPE style for the
later ones.

Paul
FWIW: When I was making my Macrium 5 CDs, I'm pretty sure I had a
choice between a WinPE and something Linuxy, so the _choice_ was
still there up to at least 5. I think the guidance rather implied
that the Linuxy one was somewhat more spartan, but would still have
done the job - it was certainly smaller; I chose the Windowsy one
because I'm more familiar with it, and it would still fit on a CD
(even, as I found out, a mini-one).


I thought at the time, that when the Linux Rescue.iso was removed,
there was a big saving. But between 7149x64 and 909x64 it's only
9,000,000 or so. Linux is gone in Macrium6, by searching inside
with 7ZIP for the ISO. Macrium 7 seemed to put on a fair bit
of weight.

v5.3.7149_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe\ISOFiles.cab\ download=51,693,008
bytes \
Rescue.iso 20,375,552 \
/
v6.1.909_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe download=42,288,592 bytes /
v6.1.1225_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe download=42,833,920 bytes
v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe download=46,645,904 bytes
v7.1.2963_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe download=65,792,600 bytes
v7.1.3317_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe download=65,875,720 bytes

Paul


Interesting. From your statements above, I infer that the single
download file includes the .iso required to make the CD (or even two
such ISOs in the case of v5). Presumably compressed, as my v5 CD IIRR
occupies most of the space on my mini-CD, i. e. about 200M.

Yes, I remember the process of making the CD as relatively painless, as
would indeed be the case if what you had downloaded included all you
needed. I've been slightly puzzled since by discussions about you having
to choose - and by implication download extra - which versions of WinPE
(PE4, PE5, PE10?) are needed to make a CD.

For interest, here (courtesy of Everything with "reflect_" as the search
string) are the 32-bit ones I have stored (I must have had at some point
a 64-bit v5 as well, sine I have two CDs [though I'm unaware of any
noticeable advantage to the 64- one, but presumably there must be
something!]):
on my D:
downloaded 2014-9-28:
v5.3.7170_reflect_setup_free_x86.eze 49,926,608 bytes
downloaded 2018-3-11 (I think well after it was issued):
v6.3.1852_reflect_setup_free_x86.exe 44,303,520 bytes
I also find that I have, in my C:\Windows\Installer:
reflect_setupv5.3.7170-x86-00.msi 48,521,216 bytes dated
2018-12-7, which is interesting: I don't think I've ever installed any
Macrium on this machine, and would certainly never have put anything
there (I didn't know of the _existence_ of C:\Windows\Installer until
now; I rarely manually write to C: at all). I did however make (onto
eternal drive) an image of C: and the hidden partition in early
December, using one of the CDs (the 64-bit one) I had made on my XP
machine, so that's presumably when the .msi file appeared.


When software installs, the MSI can be cached.

If you go to Add/Remove (WinXP) or Programs and features (Win7),
you may be offered a Repair option, and the cached MSI comes
in handy for that.

The Linux ISO (rescue.iso) is part of the 40-50MB main download
for Reflect.

The WinPE ISO requires downloading additional materials, part
of the WAIK or WADK kit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...Deployment_Kit

On first installation, the Reflect Stub installer can download
two apparent files. The main installer is 40MB. The WADK is actually
downloaded as a dozen files or so. First a manifest is fetched
from the Macrium site, then a dozen files are downloaded from MS. These
are compressed into a ZIP file for a rainy day. The ZIP can
be uncompressed, when it is desired to make a 300MB WinPE
rescue CD.

Macrium supports as many as four different WinPE versions,
and will download the materials needed on demand. However,
not all WAIK/WADK kits work on all OSes. There is a table
of what works somewhere.

The Linux ISO is initrd based and the image is a lot smaller.
Only 20MB of surface need be burnt on your CD.

Both cases can be analyzed with the services of 7ZIP.

The Macrium rescue disc procedures resist meddling,
so it's not really possible to have a positive influence
by trying to repair what it's doing by hand. I learned
some of that, trying to get WinPE4 working in WinXP recently.
It appears Microsoft has removed the components for download,
to make one of those. So the Macrium manifest file now
doesn't point to the stuff it should point to. You can try
making a later version of WinPE materials, using a Win7 or
Win10 PC, then testing whether the rescue disc works
on your WinXP machine. A newer release of Macrium should
be able to restore .mrimg files made with an older
version.

At some point, the entire universe will be 64 bit, and
there won't be sufficient materials to make 32-bit
machines happy any more. 32-bit-only machines today
are circling the gurgler.

Paul
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