On 09/07/2012 09:34 PM, glee wrote:
"BillW50" wrote in message
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On 09/07/2012 06:54 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:55:12 -0500, "BillW50" wrote
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On 09/06/2012 08:22 AM, slate_leeper wrote:

XP Professional, SP2. 500gb SATA drive, using 74gig.

This is a left-over file that was not removed by the program's
uninstall routine.

Trying to delete it results in the "locked or in use" error.

File Assassin's "unlock" routine reports that the file is not
locked.
However File's Assassin's "delete file" command results in
"unable to
delete."

snip

First off: boot to safe mode, you should be able to delete it from
there. If that does not work, boot from a Linux live cd...for sure
you will be able to delete it then. (I'd probably rename it first
just in case it ends up being some file needed for booting)

Careful, I have been burned by Linux Live before. My Windows didn't
have
a swapfile because I was running it on a SSD. And Ubuntu Live
doesn't
care and makes it's own in the Windows partition. I have no idea
why Linux needs to touch anything it shouldn't, but it does. And
when I booted Windows after Ubuntu Live it popped up a window
saying Windows
Installer and froze. I much prefer WinPE or BartPE. As they don't
play
games with your partition like Linux does.

rant

As with many other anecdotes and instances of failure from you, this
reeks of user error. I've been using various Linux Live CDs,
including
Ubuntu, extensively for system recovery for better than a decade and
what you describe just doesn't happen and I'll wager has never
happened. First, Linux Live CDs don't auto-mount hard drive
partitions, they must be manually mounted by the user. Second,
Linux Live CDs don't use swap. Third, Linux doesn't use a swap
*file* by default it uses a swap *partition* so it would have
completely flattened the partition had it somehow gone off the deep
end and decided to use your drive as swap on its own. Fourth, even
if it did use a swap file, that file would have been just that, a
file on the file system separate from anything else and Windows
wouldn't have cared
a whit.

Crawl back under your bridge, troll.

/rant



Now that I think of it you are right...
the user must have made some other error.
Not only is it true about Linux using a swap partition rather than a
swap file...It would certainly not setup anything on an NTFS drive

In all the years I've used Linux live cd's they never had any effect
on the Windows install other than what I chose to modify

Exactly. I too have been using a variety of Linux Live CDs for over a
decade, and they simply do not touch the hard drives or mount them for
anything, unless and until the user allows it.

That isn't true Glen. The one who compiles Linux has that and more
opinions available. I take it you never compiled Linux before?

No user compiling is involved in running a Live CD, so I don't see how
that is relevant. The user downloads the .iso, burns the image to a CD
or creates the bootable USB drive. Done.
You stated you used an Ubuntu Live CD and this happened... I've been
using Ubuntu Live CDs for some time and have never seen this behavior.
Tell me in what version you saw this behavior, I'll download and make
the Live CD or USB stick, and see if the behavior you report is
reproduced. It hasn't been in any of the versions I have used.


This whole thread is getting a bit weird.
I have never had a Linux live cd do anything to a Windows installation
unless I specifically did something...
but I have evidence that if a live Linux cd is used to access an
existing *Linux* installation it will use an existing swap partition if
there is one. I fooled with this a few days ago.

OTOH: I can't imagine any "home user" downloading a Linux iso
then recompiling the source code


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