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Old March 17th 18, 09:05 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Toshiba W-7 went dark

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HB wrote:

I had to pass since Linux was a 8 GB download and I don't have unlimited
ISP service.

Wrong Wrong Wrong.

Tell me what you want to experiment with, and I'll
tell you the size.

For example, if you picked Puppy, it *definitely* isn't 8GB.

The website didn't say what to do with it once downloaded. The
extenstion was unknown to me.

Quite true.

Again, if we know what you downloaded, we can help you


So I download Lynux "puppy" and burn it to a DVD and it will boot the
Toshiba unless ther HD is toast? I don't have to worry about the strange
extension? There is no other software out there anyone knows about that
would boot the PC?

If if does nothing what does that mean?


In this case, we might be burning a Linux DVD, because we can't
get our hands on a Windows DVD to boot with. The Windows DVD would
have CHKDSK, diskpart, and so on. Linux doesn't have a CHKDSK for
NTFS.

And Puppy was purely an illustration of a small one.

Puppy is for year 2000 computers. The old kernel and old drivers
are a good match for the old computers involved.

FatDog64 is a 64-bit distro, where the kernel version is a bit
later, and that one matches my newer machine better. And it's
still a small download (smaller than a CD size download).

But for a relatively wide selection of packages, then Ubuntu
is also a choice. At around 1.5GB for the download.

There's no need, typically, to be selecting a 3.5GB Linux
distro. There are some, but the software included on them
is too obscure to justify the download. Packages can be
added to a distro, once booted and online for example.

The purpose of booting with Linux, is to get a second
opinion on hardware health. Does the computer boot ?
If I use SmartMonTools, what does SMART say ? The hard
drives have names like "sda", "sdb", "sdc"...

sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 092 092 036 Pre-fail Always - 334

You run commands like that from a Terminal. Click the
"dash" search icon (might be upper-left) and type
Terminal to open a terminal. Then type

smartctl

to see if the executable is available. If the executable
is not present, the OS will tell you the command to use
to make the software download.

Things like the "Software" icon, have a Repository setup
in them, with "Universe" and "Multiverse" buttons. For
some software downloads, you have to make sure those are
turned on first.


*******

Meanwhile, this is for ISO files. It makes bootable DVDs from them.


So the Linux PUPPY files will be turned into ISO files able to boot
computers that can't load their OSs?


Linux distros ship as ISO files. An ISO file is an "image" of
an entire DVD. Burning software is supposed to know that it
copies the image, sector for sector, to the optical media. You
don't "drag and drop" an ISO onto a DVD. The burning program
recognizes the ISO is an archive of sorts, that represents
a DVD, and burns it as such. It copies the sectors over, out
of the ISO, to the DVD surface. It doesn't work at file system level.
The process required is *not the same as Windows drag-and-drop*.


http://www.oldversion.com/windows/do...mgburn-2-5-0-0

2.5.0.0_SetupImgBurn_2.5.0.0.exe 2,169,915 bytes Jul 26, 2009
CRC32: 39CD6FC6
MD5: F3791CFACDAC03B9E676E44AA2630243
SHA-1: E07BCC23B495D0A966BAE359EA9E0E3A11888454

The download button for that is green in color and says:

+-----------------------------------------------+
| Download Now | |
| | |
| V |
| |
| Tested: Free from spyware, adware and viruses |
+-----------------------------------------------+


Once a program like this is installed, when you double-click
an ISO, Imgburn should open.

Imgburn has six buttons in the window. You want the upper-left button.

https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/up...burn_a_dvd.jpg

In the window that opens, there is an icon to "add an ISO" to
the burn queue. There is a green "+" to the right of
"Please select a file". You select an ISO you want made
into a boot-able CD/DVD. While this page has lots
of confusing dialog boxes, just the defaults should
do a good job of burning the disc. Since the verify
tick box is selected by default, after the burn is
finished, the optical drive tray will "open and close"
before the verify begins. Don't panic if you hear the
drive door opening. It's the step just before
verify starts.

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?/...re-in-imgburn/

Also, turn down the audio volume on your computer speakers,
as the "done tone" the program uses, will scare the
crap out of you. The Imgburn author has a wicked
sense of humor. You can modify the audio behavior
in the Preferences, but usually only after having
the crap scared out of you :-)

No bootable CD, is perfect for every kind of maintenance
a person might want to do. People collect various CDs
and add them to their collection, to do various
kinds of maintenance. Just getting a CD to boot, is
a way of verifying the computer "is worth keeping".
If you can't get it to boot, or if there are
obvious crash symptoms with two OSes (the original OS
and the test CD), then you would begin to suspect a
hardware issue (bad RAM, bad CPU, bad power, and so on).

Paul
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