On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:50:01 -0600, Noncompliant wrote:

A PC or laptop is not off if in hibernate mode.

Standby and hibernate were initially developed for laptops to save power
when not in use and left on. Which is and was an excellent idea for
laptops.

An easy way to tell if a PC or laptop is initially actually off is to
visually account its display during turn-on.

An MVP would not make such a ludicrous statement.

When I close the LID on my laptop it is completely powered down, nothing
running, nothing has any more power than if I used the power button and
held it in for 10 seconds.

The difference between shutting down and suspend is that when the computer
boots back up, if suspended, it will restore the memory image instead of
booting from scratch.

I can assure you that suspend (or hibernate, can't remember which one)
actually shuts down the computer. The other one will put it in low power
mode and it will appear to be asleep, but still has some power applied.

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Leythos
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