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Old March 9th 09, 11:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Gerry
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

Phillip

I can see why you are having problems.

The first thing is that volumes C and D do not have the normal 4 kb cluster
size. This can occur in certain situations if they are converted from FAT32
to NTFS without taking precautions. See the link which follows:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.htm
The Default Cluster Size for the NTFS and FAT File Systems
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314878/en-us

Other than reformatting I do not know how to correct the error. Of course
with your C volume that involves reinstalling Windows XP and all that
entails.

How many drives are there? Are all volumes on the same drive or are they on
physically separate drives?

The problem with your C volume is more than likely the transaction log. What
is generating the log and what is recorded in the log? Some logs open using
notepad and you can delete older data leaving the more current information.
The size and fragmentation of the file will be preventing effective
defragmentation by the Microsoft Defragmenter. You also have a number of
other log files. Do these also contain old data which you do not need to
keep?

When you run the Microsoft Disk Defragmenter does it complete leaving one or
two of the larger files or does it give up? You should always run cCleaner
(or Disk CleanUp ) before running Disk Defragmenter. If it completes leaving
some files run Disk Defragmenter again and see if the number of fragments
reduce. If this does not work download and run Defraggler. Given the amount
of free space on volume C I would expect Disk Defragmenter and / or
Defraggler to resolve the problem

The problem with your D volume is the same as volume C but much more severe.
I would suspect the problem has been created by placing the images on the
volume when the volume is in a fragmented state. You might avoid the problem
in future by running Disk CleanUp and Disk Defragmenter before putting the
images on the volume. You have 3 large files, which if temporarily removed
from the volume, would enable Disk Defragmenter to work, although it might
take quite a time. Defraggler might work with the files still on the volume.
Do you have access to an external cradle and another hard drive, which you
could connect to your computer. You can then copy the large files to the
external drive deleting the original copies using Shift+Delete to bypass the
Recycle Bin, run Disk Defragmenter and copy the files back. You should find
the large files copied are only in a few fragments and not multi fragmented
as before.

Your E volume should not cause defragmentation problems.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Phillip Pi" wrote in message
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Gerry,

Here you go:

Volume SYSTEM (C
Volume size = 12.00 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 9.63 GB
Free space = 2.37 GB
Percent free space = 19 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 7 %
File fragmentation = 15 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 77,007
Average file size = 180 KB
Total fragmented files = 1,206
Total excess fragments = 307,892
Average fragments per file = 4.99

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 200 MB
Total fragments = 9

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 4,443
Fragmented folders = 13
Excess folder fragments = 33

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 86 MB
MFT record count = 84,627
Percent MFT in use = 96 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
301,225 265 MB \transaction.log
376 10 MB
\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\DataColl\CollectedData_4 1114.xml
296 2 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\cceraser.dll
261 408 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\file1.log
156 913 KB \WINDOWS\KB942763.log
144 1 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\navex32a.dll
130 100 KB \Program Files\Altiris\Altiris
Agent\Logs\Agent8.log
125 100 KB \Program Files\Altiris\Altiris
Agent\Logs\Agent9.log
123 4 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan9.dat
72 635 KB \WINDOWS\comsetup.log
67 491 KB \WINDOWS\KB955839.log
52 2 MB
\winstuff\DebuggingTools\w2kfre\kdex2x86.dll
49 363 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\eeCtrl.sys
49 991 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan1.dat
44 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\win32k.sys
42 324 KB \WINDOWS\SchCache\Corp.Com.sch
41 3 MB \Program Files\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\v3.5\System.Data.En tity.dll
41 142 KB \WINDOWS\updspapi.log
40 3 MB
\WINDOWS\$hf_mig$\KB953838\SP3QFE\mshtml.dll
39 287 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini
38 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\ntkrnlmp.exe
37 388 KB \WINDOWS\ntdtcsetup.log
36 2 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\3e01c8ea.msi
35 253 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\ecmsvr32.dll
32 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Logs\FrameWork.log
31 936 KB \WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\ReportingEvents.log
30 45 MB \WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.DATA
29 5 MB \Program Files\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\v3.0\PresentationFr amework.dll
27 2 MB \Program Files\Common Files\VMware\VMware
Virtual Machine Importer\v2vapp.exe
27 580 KB
\WINDOWS\Installer\{90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}\accicons.exe


Volume DATA (D
Volume size = 52.51 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 44.90 GB
Free space = 7.61 GB
Percent free space = 14 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 43 %
File fragmentation = 87 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 17,429
Average file size = 3 MB
Total fragmented files = 255
Total excess fragments = 28,534
Average fragments per file = 2.63

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,312
Fragmented folders = 9
Excess folder fragments = 28

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 44 MB
MFT record count = 21,101
Percent MFT in use = 47 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
20,771 11.95 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home SP2
(Simplified Chinese) & Linux\Windows XP Home Edition.vmdk
1,763 3.63 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP
Professional-000003.vmdk
1,168 9.11 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Vista Home
Basic N (experimental)\Windows Vista (experimental).vmdk
900 7 MB \dl\cel_030809.mp3
716 4 MB \Documents and
Settings\phil\ntuser.dat.LOG
642 7.25 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
588 1.71 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP
Pro. SP2\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
559 3.30 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP
Pro. SP2\Windows XP Professional-000002.vmdk
391 3 MB \work\tools\cdbxp_setup_4.2.4.1255.exe
260 314 MB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP
Professional-000004.vmdk
64 0 bytes \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\158839A4.TMP
49 153 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\adityadev007.xml
41 17 MB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmss
31 220 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Settings.LiveUpdate
29 38 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\air.xml
28 2 MB \winstuff\mcd\BMP.BMP
26 268 KB \winstuff\Trillian3\users\default\cache\cache.ini
20 48 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\aditya.log
18 153 KB \Documents and Settings\phil\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\43p1f9aas.slt\Cache\ _CACHE_001_
17 3 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Log.LiveUpdate
14 19 KB \winstuff\RealAlternativeLite\Media Player
Classic\mplayerc.ini
13 0 bytes \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\480F4270.TMP
12 618 KB \p4_perforce\depot\Services\Docs\QA\Patch\Patch.wb k
11 67 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-2.log
11 60 bytes \lotus\notes\Data\Modems
10 2 MB \Documents and Settings\phil\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\dp1f91yq.slt\history .dat
10 617 KB \p4_perforce\depot\Services\Docs\QA\Patch\Patch.do c
9 51 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-1.log
8 12 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\air.log
8 37 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-0.log

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I discovered defrag.exe command line earlier:


D:\defrag -a -v d:
Windows Disk Defragmenter
Copyright (c) 2001 Microsoft Corp. and Executive Software International,
Inc.

Analysis Report

Volume size = 52.51 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 44.90 GB
Free space = 7.61 GB
Percent free space = 14 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 43 %
File fragmentation = 87 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 17,417
Average file size = 3 MB
Total fragmented files = 244
Total excess fragments = 28,490
Average fragments per file = 2.63

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,309
Fragmented folders = 8
Excess folder fragments = 27

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 44 MB
MFT record count = 21,086
Percent MFT in use = 46
Total MFT fragments = 2

You should defragment this volume.


Volume BackupsAndArchives (E
Volume size = 9.91 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 2.31 GB
Free space = 7.60 GB
Percent free space = 76 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 21 %
File fragmentation = 43 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 1,551
Average file size = 2 MB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 2
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.00 GB
Total fragments = 3

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 277
Fragmented folders = 12
Excess folder fragments = 48

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 4 MB
MFT record count = 1,843
Percent MFT in use = 43 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
27 112 KB
\stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark\ snmp\mibs
6 32 KB
\stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark\ radius
6 28 KB \stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark
4 28 KB \stuff\work\tools
3 20 KB \music\midi
2 8 KB \stuff\work\docs\info
2 8 KB \stuff\work\tools\SymantecTools\LicensingTools
2 8 KB \stuff\work\tools\SymantecTools
2 8 KB \music\mod
2 8 KB \stuff\Desktop
2 20 KB \stuff\Links
2 8 KB \stuff\work\tools\as


D:\defrag /?
Usage:
defrag volume [-a] [-f] [-v] [-?]
volume drive letter or mount point (d: or d:\vol\mountpoint)
-a Analyze only
-f Force defragmentation even if free space is low
-v Verbose output
-? Display this help text

Can I use -f parameter? Is this safe to use?


Thank you in advance.
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Phillip Pi (aka Ant)
Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
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