On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:17:39 -0000, edevils wrote:

On 16/01/2016 22:53, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:43:05 -0000, edevils
wrote:

On 16/01/2016 20:39, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:31:43 -0000, edevils
wrote:

On 16/01/2016 18:14, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:06:39 -0000, Paul wrote:

Fritz Wuehler wrote:

So, free Windows is just like Linux now. A lot of code and
promising crap that never gets fixed or developed further.

Most of the time, we end up not understanding
why they're changing things. If the objective was
to in an obvious way, "make Win10 better and better",
I might have a more positive attitude to the rolling
release idea and what they're actually doing to it.

For example, the desktop version uses Windows
Update. The latest builds added Update Orchestrator,
which sits above Windows Update, a piece of software
used on the Enterprise edition. Do consumers
need Update Orchestrator ? No.
Did the policies in the OS change, because
of the presence of Update Orchestrator ? Yes.
Is the overall change an improvement for
consumers ? No.

The desktop version is being used as a testbed,
and for ideas that may have no positive impact
on the consumer version itself. And that's not
really the intention of the rolling release idea.
It's an abuse of rolling release.

Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And
it's
not gone wrong once.

It works for me too, but the fact that it is being used as a testbed,
like Paul put it, combined with the nearly "unstoppable" automatic
updates, makes me a bit unconfortable. I mean, a new feature update
could break it any time, could it not?

I don't feel like I'm using a Beta version. It's more reliable than
previous models.


I am not having problems either. But we don't know what issues a new
feature may or may not cause in the future. The difference between
Windows 10 and previous windows versions is that Windows 10
automatically updates itself with new features.

And with previous versions, most of us did this anyway.

There is a huge difference though. You didn't upgrade to a new Windows
version in the middle of a working day. You knew that something *might*
sometimes go wrong. So, you took the jump to the new features only if
and when you wanted to.

Er.... I still do that now. I don't even know updates are available until I press start to engage sleep, and notice "install updates and restart" as an option.

And we didn't
know about problems until AFTER the update.

Exactly my point. Now, for you and me, Windows 10 works like a charm,
but we'll find out about problems (or, hopefully, not) AFTER the updates.

And that's exactly what happened to us with previous Windows, so what's the change?

Oh, except there weren't any problems. So what is it you're worrying
about again?

Most times there weren't any problems, but sometimes there were, and you
had to find a fix.

What times? I've NEVER had a problem with an update.

That was OK, anyhow, because you did *not* try and
upgrade Windows while you were working at your computer.

And I still don't. Why are you doing so?

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