Blue wrote, On 4/6/2014 9:31 AM:
Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-04-05 11:40 PM, John wrote:
One of the early "posters" I think hit the on the head. Many users are
not interested in PC,s, Os,s, workarounds, obscure cures.
They just want a PC as a tool that works as intuitively and reliably as
possible. For that reason may people are happy to fork out
up to 100% more for a machine that does the same task as a MS product.
Come in Apple!!!!!!!. Sure, they are overpriced but they simply work
"simply".
My daughter with the original problem is case in point. She comes with
an Apple history but her budget now made her go W8 on a HP "all in one"
instead.
A week or two later she is still trying to get the thing working instead
of her old Apple that just worked out of the box. I,m just guessing
there will never be another MS product in that household!
John

I bought a Mac Mini for my parents in November or so. It was a
replacement for an earlier Mac Mini whose hard disk died and left them
with an unusable machine. Since it was slow, I figured an upgrade made
sense. Of course, being the technologically-gifted one, I had to set up
the machine for them. I couldn't believe how a NEW machine could be so
slow. A Core i5 with 4GB RAM which was actually felt much slower than
the tablet I'm posting this message on right now with 2GB of RAM and an
Intel Atom. Every few weeks or so, I also had to come home and fix
something which went wrong as a result of stupid permission problems.
The last time, fixing permissions took two hours and even GETTING to the
Disk Utility was difficult because the machine behaved erratically.

Say what you will about the Mac but no, it doesn't work. Windows works
and it works well. If your daughter was too lazy to figure out the new
interface of Windows, which honestly takes about five minutes, then that
doesn't make a platform than another. Whether Windows 8 or 8.1, the
system is not as bad as zealots claim and the reality is that under the
hood, Windows 8 is a fantastic system. I actually prefer it over 7.


Your parents should take the Mini Mac back to the shop and either get
their money back or a new one.

Not sure I agree being familiar with both the Mac and Windows for
decades. Setting permissions on a Mac is infinitely easier than on
Windows.
It's relatively simple to set/change permissions on a Mac
Command I, select Sharing and Permissions then one has access to
changing their own permissions on an item, for someone else or a group,
folders, etc.

The Mac Disk Utility is primarily for disk functions not changing
permissions but for repairing permissions (most often misconfigured by
the user)

Windows 8, agreed, is easy to use and imo a better and faster o/s than
its predecessors, yet it still has some clunks for useability that need
to be rectified...though changing permissions on Win8 is about
equivalent to Win7 and in some cases not as tolerant of those changes.



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...winston
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