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Old May 5th 17, 01:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John & Jane Doe
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

.. . .winston wrote in news
Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder found the generic Win10 key used for the free
upgrade and stored in the registry on the device *after* the Windows 7
genuine license was verified during the free upgrade process.


Is this line from Magical Jelly Bean output indicative of "hard media"?
"Installed from Full Packaged Product Media"
https://s9.postimg.org/vn6cj888f/key_windows.jpg

i.e. you don't have a Win10 Product key.


Oh. Interesting. That's not what I had expected.

The same generic key is used on all machine.

I'm confused.

Does that mean that I did not need to redact the 20 and 25 character keys
in the previous screenshot above because everyone has the same keys?

You do have a device with a digital license and most likely
can be clean installed with Win10 version 1511(10586 your version), version
1607(14393 later build than yours) media and possibly 1703(build 14393) media.


This is what is most important! Thanks.

If you clean install using the generic key it will not activate. You would
subsequently need to provide a valid Win10, Windows 7(OEM or retail) product
key to activate.


Oh. That's not what others said so I thank you for pointing out that I
can't use the keys that came out of Magical Jelly Bean output.

- i.e. if you clean install you should choose the 'Skip' product key
option(Do not enter the generic key the 'Keyfinder' found) and let Win10's
clean install setup activate using the digital license stored on the server.


I think I understand, but it's different than what others said so may I
repeat what you said?
1. You said that the keys that Magical Jelly Bean output are just generic.
2. Therefore, they might not work in a clean install (so don't use them).
3. Yet, I do have a "valid" Windows 10 license (an upgrade from Windows 7).
4. So, when clean installing Windows 10 Pro, the server will validate that.

Does it matter which of the following ISO files I choose to create on XP?
https://s14.postimg.org/vegy73d4x/windows_iso.gif (which do you suggest)?

You're fortunate that the original owner didn't activate and link a
Microsoft account to the digital license.
Windows 10/Setttings/Windows Update/Activation
If so, when looking on the Activate screen it would have said "Windows is
activated with a digital license **linked** to you Microsoft account"


Thank you for telling me this as I don't know what to look for and this is
certainly not how Windows XP did things.
https://s7.postimg.org/ggvp86w2j/hp_activation.gif

So I don't even know what a "Microsoft account" is as that is a foreign
concept that she had to have an account (linked or otherwise) with MS.

Finally, if this machine(unlikely since its 2009 vintage Windows 7 Home
based on your feedback) it does not have a Windows 7 Home product key on
embedded on the bios. If it did and you clean install, Windows 10 Home
would be the default installed o/s.


I don't know if I gave you correct information but here is where I got that
information from. Here is the date stamp on the inside of the HP case:
https://s13.postimg.org/50a4owg7r/hp_case_date.gif

Here is the sticker on the outside of the case which says it's for
"Windows 7 Home Prem OA" with a bunch of numbers on it.
https://s15.postimg.org/8k2gatca3/win7_sticker.jpg

Which of those numbers are meaningful to me now?
584xxx-xxx
00196-xxx-xxx-xxx
Product Key MJTXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX
X15-53758

How did the Windows 7 Home get to Windows 1o Pro ?
Three ways.
- the prior owner upgraded Windows 7 Home to Pro using a Windows 7 Pro key
or
- the prior owner upgraded from Windows 10 Home to Pro using a valid
Windows 10 Pro key
or
- the more likely, the prior owner took advantage of the Windows 7 to
Windows 8 Pro upgrade offer, then used the free Win10 upgrade to upgrade
Win8 Pro to Win10 Pro.


Thank you very much for that explanation.

One final note: Since this is originally an OEM machine, it falls under the
rights that allow transfer of the machine and license to another owner
Win10
i.e. their should be a sticker on the machine that has the Windows 7
Product key.


I showed that sticker for "Windows 78 Home Prem OA" above.

Fyi...if not already answered, you can change 'her' name by editing the
registry key that contains the registered owner name.


Thank you for explaining that I can change the name that is "registered"
simply by editing the registry using regedit (like I would edit the
registry with Windows XP?) as I don't want the old owner to have any
problems from what I do moving forward.

Here is the currently registered name:
https://s9.postimg.org/vn6cj888f/key_windows.jpg

I was worried that this name was registered on the MS servers, which would
mean that my actions would be associated with hers. I guess not since you
said that it's really only on the machine registry that her name exists.
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