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Old June 2nd 21, 03:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Robert in CA wrote:
I wish I read your message before I put the #3 hd back in to test it.
So it looks like I have a domino fault and screwed up my hd.

Remember we tested my place because of the red light on my surge
protector some time ago and I bought receptacle tester and my entire
mobile in ungrounded. The only grounded outlet is in the bathroom of
all places. As for testing etc it still doesn't explain how the external
Mrimg backup hd worked and the clones don't?

I thought it might be the hd itself so I put #3 clone back in and
it's not responding and doesn't have the icon to safely remove.
How can I put the external Mrimg backup hd in and it reads it
and I already made (1) clone on the 8500 but it stil doesn't read
the drive even with the clone hd in now?

This is strange behavior for the 8500 where it reads one but not
the other and I've change the case, plug, power cord and hd. I
thought for sure it would read #3 because it was just cloned. This
makes two different hd's and two different cases etc that aren't
responding as they should. Sometimes the icon for removal appears
and sometimes it isn't there. Sometimes it says installing drivers
and says its ready to use but there are no popups to open the files
which normally happens. It goes just so far then stops or not at all.

Yet the external Mrimg backup hd didn't have any problems
whatsoever. This is odd, if one can the other should and I also tested
it with the Patriot Key as you suggested and it had no problems.

I don't have any left over hd's except the 780 clones, the original 780 hd
and the unknown hd, should I try that? But if its the domino effect won't
it screw that drive up as well? Are you saying that I've permanently lost
(2) hd's because of this? I can't copy over them?

By SATA your referring to another computer? I have the 780 of course
and there's the 8200 but its all boxed up although I believe it was in
running order but would we really need it for something like this?

How did this all start? I was doing textbook cloning when all of a sudden
all this out of nowhere and I shown you screen shots all along the way
and there's nothing that even hinted at a problem like the ones I've been
having. It started when I was rebooting and the screen went black and
it came up with the invalid OS message and ever since I've had this problem.

Robert


From my perspective, it would be quite easy to miss some
symptom happening in front of you right now.

The only time an enclosure tends to go nuts, is if Seatools is running
and it overwrites the firmware on the enclosure chip :-) And that only
happens with particular Cypress brand controllers.

Most of the time, plugging in USB devices doesn't cause anything
other than ENUM problems. (That's the area of the registry that
keeps track of where drives were placed, from one boot to the next.)

The 8200 doesn't have SATA ports, as far as I know. It's the kind of
machine that might have two IDE ribbon connectors and a floppy disk
ribbon connector, for a total of three ribbons.

I have an adapter, that converts ribbon signals, to SATA, so you
can easily convert from one to the other. Then, if there is trouble,
only the adapter gets fried. Similar in a way, to how a 2-port
PCI Express SATA card isolates hardware. The form factor of these
has changed a bit over the years. You can see SATA data on one side
(next to a 1x4 power plug), as well as female IDE on the other end.

https://www.suntech.cz/data/P/z/V/phpPzV8qW_386x386.jpg

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The "#3 drive" you're worried about, is it a boot drive ? Is it
a clone of one of the other drives ? Does it belong in the 780 or
the 8500 ?

Let's say for a moment, that drive #3 contains 8500 partitions.
You could:

1) Remove all drives inside the 8500, unplug the external enclosure.
2) Install the drive internally in the 8500.
3) Insert the Macrium boot CD.
4) Boot up Macrium.
5) Do the "Boot Repair" procedure from the CD menu.
While you are doing this, Macrium will be working with
the drive, showing you the partitions, plus updating some
materials.
6) Shut down Macrium, reboot with the hard drive (which, if there is
anything on the hard drive, now it will boot).

For this exercise though, we want 8500 materials on the drive, if
testing in the 8500. If the drive is for the 780, we should be
testing in the 780.

This can help you determine whether the drive is good.

Paul
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