On 9/5/2018 10:33 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Neil wrote:

On 9/5/2018 8:33 AM, Paul wrote:
Neil wrote:
On 9/5/2018 2:17 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described
below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama
models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder,
whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to
try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I
used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics
adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.

No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

Whether using a graphics card or built-in chip, the issues are the
same. Your drivers have to support the same resolution as you're using
for the monitor or something will be off. From what you've written, it
seems that the graphics chip resolution is 1936 x 1186, which would
mean that the maximized window would be wider than but not as tall as
the screen.

But that's not what his specialized utilities are reporting.

They're reporting window dimensions. Not screen resolution
setting.

And it's possible for a desktop environment to have a
larger coordinate space, than you can see at any one time.

A window can be an off-screen buffer, unconstrained by
graphics hardware. When it's "rendered" or composited,
a viewport clips the excess materials at that point in time.

The only thing that's constrained in his setup, is the
panel in the LCD monitor, has precisely 1920x1200
visible pixels. And that can't be changed. But a lot of
other things are quite flexible.

Â*Â* Paul

Yes, the availability of workspace larger than the screen size is not
new. In that case there are scroll bars to access that additional space.
I didn't get the impression that this was Terry's issue because of the
odd size he reported for a maximized screen and he didn't mention scroll
bars.

Also, his reply to my post states that the graphics resolution is also
1920 x 1200, so a maximized app should not exceed those dimensions under
normal circumstances. So, that suggests some other source of the problem.

You must have missed the solution from Ralph some seven hours ago Neil.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

I wasn't on-line 7 hours ago. However, I did respond to your reply to
Ralph because it doesn't seem to address the issue as you presented it.
See that reply for specifics.

--
best regards,

Neil