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Old November 12th 06, 08:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
w_tom
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If one represents interests of plug-in protector manufacturers, then
one must deceive. Those six engineers note how a plug-in protector can
even put a TV at 8000 volts - damage the TV - which is why the
standards don't recommend plug-in protectors. Even a kid connecting
an Xbox to a TV can compromise plug-in protector protection -
contribute to TV damage. Bud hopes you ignore what they say about a
protector without proper earthing. Profits are too great. He hopes
you don't learn: no earth ground means no effective protection.

Bud spins a technical discussion into a recommendation. But
recommendations are instead found in Standards such as IEEE Red Book
(IEEE Std 141):
In actual practice, lightning protection is achieve by the
process of interception of lightning produced surges,
diverting them to ground, and by altering their
associated wave shapes.


No religion. Protection has always been about earthing. Do 911
emergency operators remove headsets as a thunderstorm approaches? Of
course not. Do they use plug-in protectors? Absolutely not.
Protection is same solution installed even in the 1930s - earthing.
Protector makes a short connection to earthing where wire enters the
building.

Bud intentional half truth lies and distortions were exposed six times
over:
1) Bud does not provide numerical specs for his recommendation.
2) Those profits are too outrageously high to be fully honest.
3) He intentionally misrepresents a technical discussion as a
recommendation - ignoring the TV charged to 8000 volts by a
plug-in protector.. 4) He routinely ignores IEEE recommendations
from the Red Book and Green Book - recommendations are made
in standards. 5) He hopes you will ignore that fire risk. And this
is most damning. 6) He completely ignores the need for earthing.


Oh yes. He hopes you will ignore these scary pictures:
http://www.hanford.gov/rl/?page=556&parent=554
http://www.westwhitelandfire.com/Art...Protectors.pdf
http://www.ddxg.net/old/surge_protectors.htm
http://www.zerosurge.com/HTML/movs.html

UL1449 standards were created 25 years ago. Bud will try to claim
these failures did not meet UL1449. But then he must say something to
protect those he represents.

bud-- wrote:
...
Your religious views interferre with technical knowledge. The IEEE
describes plug-in suppressor action as clamping the voltage on all
wires to the common ground at the suppressor. Earthing is secondary.
...

Sorry, the 6 electrical engineers that wrote the IEEE and NIST guides
have a lot more technical knowledge than you. The NIST guide was writen
by the surge guru for the NIST who wrote numerous published technical
papers on surges, a number of which you have distorted to suport your
opinions.

The IEEE and NIST guides both say that plug-in suppressors are
effective.
Links to sites that say plug-in suppressors are effective: 2
Your links to sites that say plug-in suppressors are not effective:
zero, zip, nada


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