Lewis
Fri, 29 Dec 2017 14:10:59
GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

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Diesel wrote:
Paul news 17 Dec 2017 11:01:28 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

Can I use é in 8.3 ? Probably not :-) They "hadn't invented
foreigners yet", when they did 8.3 :-)

This might surprise you to learn then...

8.3 will use 'extended ascii' aside from a couple. [g] And, even
those, as long as they aren't used as the first character *can*
be used. AFAIK, You can do the same with LFN based names. How do
I know this? Personal experience. I've done it. Even went so far
as to do something very sneaky and wrote a tiny program that
would not only rename folders/files to 8.3 extended ascii, but
occasionally play with the hidden/system bit settings for them as
well. It did a fairly good job of simulating a 'hard disk crash'
to the untrained eye.

However, many many characters will break in SMB, so ig you name a
file

SMB wasn't being discussed. Allowed characters in a filename were.
From the OS perspective, the majority of the extended ascii character
set is allowed and has been for a long long time.

"HelloÂ*😅.txt"

it might work fine locally, and it might blow up your
network if you try to share it.

Blow my network up? Assuming I can share a folder with an extended
ascii name in the first place, worst case scenario I can't share it,
and/or it'll timeout when I try to access it from a non local machine
if it does lemme share it. But, it's not going to blow anything up if
it fails. Just cause a delay in access followed up by an error
message. That's Windows and Linux for you. YMMV with Mac.

Windows 3x browser file manager played stupid with the extended ascii
names, but windows9x and later just go right into the folder/open the
files when possible. In fairness, I've also seen this trick on non PC
machines when I was a kid as a primitive form of copy protection.
That's actually where I 'stole' the idea from, and when I tested it
on my first PC and found it worked, I was sold. for awhile. Like I
said though, windows9x ruined the fun. I used to use the hidden space
in the folder name 'extension' to keep people out of 'private'
folders, and it worked for years until windows9x came along. heh.

I have some files with French names that are inaccessible via SMB
and cannot be deleted via the network because of the è and/or é
characters in the filename.

Which has nothing to do with the original subject...*shrug*




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