I can make the decision as to whether I have good reason to post in HTML. On
groups with close supervision by MSFT, MSFT personnel have given a strong
argument why HTML may enhance a post as well as attachments in fact, and
that post exists now.

It's common sense--the same reason the print media, web page design, and TV
graphics use italics and bold--it's easier to read and more attractive than
plain text. That's why it's called plain. What do you and Plato do about
all the Web pages that are formatted various ways? Read your ridiculous
riot act to them?

For the third time (you didn't pay any attention to previous posts--go back
and read them--the small font came from a system restore article on Kelly's
site and I linked it. See for yourself. As I've said two previous times, I
pasted from Kelly's web page and I didn't know HTML was on.

I was explicit as to the two places on the Send tab I configured for Plain
Text. Go back and read the posts this time.

"In Outlook Express, use *both* of the following settings to prevent the
parent's HTML from propagating"

I have been doing that well before you suggested it. Some quick context on
OE for you. It's Redmond's freebie. Their culture doesn't spend a lot of
time on it. This is also reflected in MSFT's failure to warn people the
harm they can cause from compacting while on line and that this is one of
the most common causes for OE broken or the complaints "I can't open OE" on
newsgroups. The OE MVPs point this out over and over again on the OE
newsgroups.

MSFT doesn't update OE much and they are content for it to have minimal
functionality. The newsgroup downloading menus and options are a mess and
don't work consistently and this ihas been shown repeatedly on the OE
newsgroups.

Many use it only for it's NNTP newsreader, and some use much better
newsreaders. Those people usually use Outlook because it does some things OE
should be doing but doesn't and yes I get that Outlook has richer
functionality because it's part of Redmond's primo cash cow Office.

You don't have a clue what I measure and don't.

"Which option? There many options on /Send\"

Again, go back and reread the posts. I was specific and explicit on its
face as to which of the two send options I had configured for Plain Text.

David Candy and I both explained a number of convenient options for Plato to
take if print is too small for his eyes whatever the reason. When David
mentioned over 40, I suppose the most common cause would be ciliary muscle
tone loss and presbyopia. And there are lots of ways to counter that in a
Windows OS and we named every one of them. Good ones reside at
Accessibility and Display Properties dialogue box. You can rheostat the
fonts on these newsgroup posts with the Accessibility suggestion I made, and
you can configure on the Display Properties dialogue box to control the
fonts on menus, even the listings for these newsgroups, name bar fonts,
toolbar fonts, task bar fonts, task bar buttons, and Start Menu fonts.

"Since your going to post in html with a mini font..." This would be on
point to Kelly's suggestion about a spell checker.

"Which has been explained by Kelly."

No it wasn't explained at all by Kelly. Kelly didn't touch it in any of her
four posts. Kelly referred to the "HTML Formatting toolbar in OE/IE/XP" as
"3rd party" or to quote her exactly "not native or related to XP(thus also
meaning OE" Since I know she knows exactly what it is she must have thought
we were referring to something else. That's the name that MSFT Press's
Latest *Running IE* book gives it--and it is absolutely a "native" part of
OE/IE/XP.

Chad Harris
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"+-J" wrote in message
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Chad,

| I fail to see why people go nuts

NOBODY went nuts, hence this reading of The Riot Act.

| when you post in html if it's for a good reason.

YOU have NO good reason to post in HTML.

| I think html makes it a lot easier to read if you use italics, underline
or bold correctly.

But you changed the FONT-SIZE for plato, and many others.

| Does it create that much of a bandwidth problem?

YES

| It's not a large image.

You did not measure anything.

| My posts in html weren't intentional on this group although I have done it
when I thought it was appropriate.

In Outlook Express, use *both* of the following settings to prevent the
parent's HTML from propagating.

Tools | Options |
[Y] "Read all messages in plain text"

Tools | Options | Send |
[_] 'Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent'

| They were a function of that checkmark on the Send tab.

Which option? There many options on /Send\

| And I still noticed the html toolbar which *is native to OE messages* in
rich text format, but since I wasn't doing anything but
hyperlinking, I didn't think it would be html.

In OE, hyperlinks are clickable in TEXT messages.

| The post that started the html question that Plato said "gave his eyes a
workout"

Plato explained the problem which YOU caused.

|--(I'm not sure what that means ...

This is ONE of YOUR problems.

| because his eyes have all the tools to handle that and more anatomically
and physiologically)

How can YOU possibly know about Plato's eyes?
And why are YOU telling HIM what HE should do about the problem which YOU
caused?

| but it came simply from a font used on Kelly's web page when I pasted and
I still cannot understand why it is such a prodigious
deal.

Plato explained the problem which YOU caused.
Since your going to post in html with a mini font, pick one that is even
smaller to give my eyes an even better workout.

| Even with the checkmark out of the box on that send tab, this message
opened up to post in html and I changed it to plain text.

.... Which has been explained by Kelly.

To be continued...
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Jan