Kelly--
I wasn't that upset, or trying to make a big deal out of this, just a
little miffed when Jan kept pushing the "lack of consideration by intent
element." I'm pretty familiar with the options tabs, although I can't
recite from rote what's on them, but after the first couple messages I
double checked to see if there was any stone I was leaving unturned, and
why in the world the html formatting bar or whatever you want to call it was
showing up. I made sure that I had the two places that address plain text
configured for it on the send tab, and went over the "plain text dialogue
box" whose options I don't claim to understand perfectly even after seeing
them contexted in the IE box--but to make sure that they wouldn't
contribute. So what I do if I see the bar is just to go to format and
select Plain Text and it goes away.
Another thing that contributed to making html posts was when the html bar
was down for whatever reason, I thought that if I wasn't going to do
anything but paste a hyperlink, (i.e. not underline or italicize or bold
type any words), then even if it had been set on html there would be
*nothing to show up as html*. Obviously, this isn't the case. I understand
from David that Ctrl+3 can give you that information and some additional
informaiton, but what puzzles me is *what would show as html or cause the
bandwidth problems if you didn't have an off-sized font and you didn't do
anything else.
Also I know you hae a reason for everything you say, and I was trying to
figure out what I didn't appreciate about the step of pasting into notepad.
If I'm missing something there, and you can also clarify what shows up as
html if the only thing you do is paste a hyperlink, I'd appreciate it.
Chad
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"Kelly" wrote in message
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Chad,
I didn't mean to get you upset. IF your settings were as you claim a week
or so ago, this would not be happening, thus my thinking it was third party.
IF and when you see the html bar appear, it means that you will be posting
to the like, thus your settings aren't as you claimed.
As for attachments, that is different than posting html. Attachments can be
included via plain text and are on rare occasions here.
--
All the Best,
Kelly
Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
"Chad Harris" wrote in message
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It is getting old Kelly The html bar I'm seeing as explicitly and
expressly
as I can convey it is native to OE (and as you say a component of IE/XP)
and
it shows up if I click FormatRich texthtml. *It's not part of any 3rd
party app.* It's native to OE meaning IE meaning XP. My question was not
*what notepad is or where I can find it*--it was introduced in Windows 95
(and there are many free apps that are notepad on steroids like Notepad
XP)--actually two different 3rd parties have that name--
http://www.acsoftware.org/
that have 10 X the features of Notepad, but I didn't see the point of
having to test paste a link into notepad if a plain link will show up as
in
this message formatted in plain text--it just seemed like a wasted step.
But you always say things for a good reason, so I asked why and I'm still
asking why?
For whatever reason, once in a while when I open a new message or reply
message it shows up and if it does I click format and change back to plain
text and it's gone.
The ratio of times I posted in html versus plain text have been less than
.05% of posts. And I still don't understand what the **huge deal is about
posting in html*** partly for the reasons David Candy gave above, and
because bold text or underlining makes it easier than a lousy asterick to
emphasize a phrase and allow it to stand out. Italics have their place
for
the same reason you see them every where else. Are there really that many
on dial up who are *that compromised by an ocassional italic or bold
word?*
I wasn't talking about posting images or attachements, although there
should
be a mechanism for that to happen too.
On one of the Office groups, because there have been an epidemic of
problems
installing Office 2003 SP1 requiring the Resource Kit tools and
interpretation of Hotfix_MSI logs, MSFT has encouraged posting attachments
of the logs. It's the same kind of binary group as this one on the NTTP
newsreader.
Best,
Chad Harris
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"Kelly" wrote in message
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Chad,
Not to be rude, but this is getting old. Other than that, whatever html
bar
you are seeing and speaking of, is not native nor related to XP (thus
also
meaning OE). And no, I didn't mean the URL, I meant the body. Notepad
is
a
simple text editor program that comes with all versions of Windows.
--
All the Best,
Kelly
Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
"Chad Harris" wrote in message
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Kelly--
I have noticed since this came up that sometimes the HTML bar kicks in
when
I get ready to reply and I don't know why. This is after several posts
in
plain text where plain text has been selected.
If I see it, I switch to plain text, and if I was chain posting in html
it
wasn't meant to happen.
The spell checker is not on the blink. I don't use one, so I have to
watch
the typos. I can spell somewhat, and I dictionary the words I need
help
spelling. I like it in Wordmail in OL, but here in OE news, it just
drives
me crazy because (although I understand it's supposed to have a
learning
curve) it stops on many words and software terms that aren't
misspelled.
So I'll try to do a better job proofreading.
I don't understand why you suggest that if you copy and paste from a
website
(I'm sure you mean the url here), *you should to do it in notepad
first.*
If, and I don't understand the why of this exactly, as Jan said, in OE,
in
text mode all hyperlinks are clickable, so you can paste hyperlinks in
a
plain text message and they are clickable, what do you gain by opening
notepad and pasting them in there first?
Thanks,
Chad Harris
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"Kelly" wrote in message
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Chad,
Your spell checker seems to be misbehaving. 
) Other than that, you
were
posting in html, until this post.
As for the latter: Whenever you copy and paste from a website - paste
it
into Notepad first, then copy and paste again.
--
All the Best,
Kelly
Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
"Chad Harris" wrote in message
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Plato--
This is another convenience, but I think one of your best bets is to
use
the Accessbility chek box so that you can rheostat anythng you see
here.
Use Kelly's Tweak Line 227 Left:
Set IE Fonts to Smaller or Larger
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs...smallertxt.reg
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Best,
Chad Harris
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"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
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Chad Harris wrote:
There have been a number of installation errors of the July 27th
Since your going to post in html with a mini font, pick one that is
even
smaller to give my eyes an even better workout.