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Old July 15th 18, 04:42 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"NY" on Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:21:27 +0100 typed in
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On 10/07/2018 12:41, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Kohl is also charcoal - I think it is even used in English in that
sense in the context of (especially stage) make-up. So I would imagine
Kohlschreiber is more likely to mean pencil or crayon than cabbagewriter
(-:

Aw, now you've gone an ruined a perfectly good joke!


I understand that many Belgians (and Dutch) have silly names. A Belgian
works colleague (whose surname was Pannekoeke (Pancake) (the
aforementioned Berliner Pfannkuche in German?) told me that this dates
back to the days of Spanish occupation. Other Belgians with silly names I
came across were Pee and Vlug (Quick). When stopped and asked for their
names, the locals would often give something false and comical, Their
oppressors (of course) didn't know any better - but the names stuck.


That is similar to the situation with place names in the UK. Apparently when
the Ordnance Survey surveyors came round to small rural communities and
asked "what's that hill called?" or "what's that valley called", the locals,
who were probably being asked these questions in the pub after consuming
many pints, responded with made-up ribald names. It is alleged that near
Todmorden (stress on first and third syllables) in West Yorkshire (or
Lancashire - it's changed sides a few times over the years) there are
features marked on a map which have names ****en Clough and ****ten Clough
(a clough - pronounced cluff - is a ravine).


Flucked Again Lake - supposedly the sanitized version of the
surveyors notes as they came over the ridge and were "flucked again"
by the lake being where they needed to make their measurements.

Kudos to anyone who finds these on a map (current or historical) because I
can't.

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