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Old March 17th 18, 04:20 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Toshiba W-7 went dark

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So I download Lynux "puppy" and burn it to a DVD and it will boot the


I think that one would fit on a CD.

Toshiba unless ther HD is toast? I don't have to worry about the strange


If it will boot the Toshiba, it will do so even if the HD _is_ toast,
unless it's toast in a very unlikely manner.

extension? There is no other software out there anyone knows about that


You DO have to worry about the strange extension, if that extension is
".iso". You DON'T just burn that file to the CD the same way you'd burn
any other data file: you have to use "create CD from ISO image", or some
similar setting in your Ashampoo. (Or download and use ImgBurn as
already described - it's fairly obvious within that which is the
create-from-ISO-image option.)

would boot the PC?


If correctly put onto the CD or DVD (as above), and the boot sequence on
the PC is set to boot from the CD/DVD drive, then any of these will boot
the PC:

o A Windows 7 install disc
o A Windows 7 recovery/repair disc
o A Linux boot disc
o A Macrium or Acronis boot disc
o A Kaspersky, or similar, disc
o other boot discs

What they _do_ when they boot obviously varies. A W7 install disc will
try to install W7, though you _can_ I think get to the recovery console
from it. A W7 repair disc I've never used, but I _think_ they go
straight into the recovery console. A Linux one will boot Linux, from
which you may be able to examine the disc. A Macrium or Acronis boot
disc would enable you to restore from an image, which isn't of use to
you at the moment. A Kaspersky disc would attempt to do a malware scan,
which probably wouldn't succeed at the moment, if it can't get at the HD
properly to scan it.

If if does nothing what does that mean?

Probably, you've either not burned the disc properly, or not set the
BIOS boot sequence correctly. You can check out any such disc by booting
one of your other PCs from it, having set their BIOS to boot from CD/DVD
first. (If you succeed and they do boot from the CD/DVD, shut them down,
in whatever manner is appropriate to the type of boot disc it is;
they're unlikely to change anything if you do that.)

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Meanwhile, this is for ISO files. It makes bootable DVDs from them.


So the Linux PUPPY files will be turned into ISO files able to boot
computers that can't load their OSs?

Not quite. What you download IS an ISO file (or possibly an ISO file
inside a .zip or similar file, which you'd have to extract). An ISO file
is a sort of image of a CD: when you burn a CD from an ISO file (note I
said "burn a CD from an ISO file", NOT "burn an ISO file to a CD"), if
you then examine the CD you have created, you will see lots of files. If
you like, think of an ISO file as a sort of .zip file, but of the entire
contents of a CD; burning a CD from it sort of unzips all the files from
inside the ISO onto the CD, as part of the burning process. (That's a
simplification - actually the opposite! - of what happens, but is near
enough.)

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/do...mgburn-2-5-0-0

2.5.0.0_SetupImgBurn_2.5.0.0.exe 2,169,915 bytes Jul 26, 2009
CRC32: 39CD6FC6
MD5: F3791CFACDAC03B9E676E44AA2630243
SHA-1: E07BCC23B495D0A966BAE359EA9E0E3A11888454

The download button for that is green in color and says:

+-----------------------------------------------+
| Download Now | |
| | |
| V |
| |
| Tested: Free from spyware, adware and viruses |
+-----------------------------------------------+

This version is free from Adware. Turn off the "auto update"
in the preferences. Do not accept any efforts it might make
to update (until you know some version is free of adware).
The size of the package increased after this release, which
is a rough guide to detecting the presence of extra materials.

I like Imgburn. I don't like Adware.

Paul



That's a burning program, to be used as an alternative to your Ashampoo.
Go on, get it and run it: it's only just over 2M! Then we'll know at
least that you have something that we know can easily burn CD/DVDs from
ISO files.

But I'd still say _my_ first choice - rather than trying to boot from a
CD/DVD - would be to examine the HD, on one of your other computers,
using a USB dock, "cable", or housing: This _doesn't_ involve buying
hardware you won't need anyway, since if you're going to back up the
machine after you've repaired it (and all your other machines!), you'll
need the dock/"cable"/housing anyway to connect the backup drive.
--
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