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Old December 6th 17, 10:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Doomsdrzej[_2_]
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 14:53:38 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Doomsdrzej wrote:

T wrote:

Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out
there?


You can upgrade directly within the System Settings - System - About.
As far as I know, it's still about $200. Its biggest feature is the
fact that it allows you to encrypt your hard disk but depending on
who you believe, this encryption already has backdoors and is
therefore utterly worthless. Besides, you can install Veracrypt which
will do the same thing for nothing.


Biggest? Depends on what the user/admin is looking for. You describe a
feature. Presumably you are talking about Bitlocker which itself is is
as secure as Veracrypt (a variant of TrueCrypt). The software got
patched LONG AGO. It is the hardware (TPM chips) that had a
vulnerability but that also got fixed. Please keep current on your FUD.

o http://www.securityweek.com/research...tlocker-bypass
"bypassed on systems that do not have the latest patches". Gee, what
might be the solution there and the same as with every other security
update? Duh! The article is dated November 18, 2015 (TWO YEARS AGO)
but the patch had already showed up on Nov 2015 Patch Tuesday.
o https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ability-in-tpm
https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/127650
What's the solution? Yeah, update the firmware. Duh!

If you are using Bitlocker then you should be keeping up with the news.
After all, either you are a sysadmin in a company or you choose to be an
admin of your own PC so you're the one supposed to be knowledgeable.


When the Hell did I say I was a sys admin? Also, why would I believe
that Bitlocker doesn't have backdoors just because some article said
so? I'm referring to the fact that Windows in general seems to have
backdoors for law enforcement as per Snowden's revelations. Security
Week can do nothing to change the very negative perception people have
of Microsoft's products as it relates to privacy and personal
security.

Doubtful that anyone looking at going from Home to Pro really cares
about Bitlocker if they weren't using it before or already employed an
alternative. Bitlocker can incorporate hardware, Veracrypt cannot.


Except that VeraCrypt, in its open-source nature, guarantees that it
is devoid of backdoors whereas BitLocker can make no such promise by
being a proprietary product.

Home editions cannot join a domain. A SOHO might decide they want to go
with a domain, add a server, and then want their workstations added to
the domain. Can do that with Pro, not with Home. Also, no group/local
policy editor in Home editions. You might figure out which registry
entries match which policies but that only works on simple policies.
Some policies (e.g., Software Restriction Policies) generate a unique
hash when they are created and you won't be able to do that with the
registry editor. There are templates you can add to the policy store
for a myriad of settings and control, often regarding specific software.
Yeah, try adding those with regedit.

Items in Pro that are missing in Home edition:
- Windows Information Protection (http://tinyurl.com/ya3vnxoc)
- Bitlocker (you mentioned but not by name, alternatives available).
- Group policy (noted above).
- Assigned Access (http://tinyurl.com/yaobzk6e)
- Dynamic Provisioning (http://tinyurl.com/y9gd2pzk)
- Shared PC Configuration (http://tinyurl.com/yak2hmt3)
- Join a domain (not possible with Home editions without hacking)
- Remote Desktop (alternatives available, T already knows some)
- Client Hyper-V (other virtualization available but may not be
compatible with Hyper-V deployed elsewhere in the organization).
- and more.

T never stated if this was for a standalone PC or used in a business and
why they (not T) feels the need to go to the Pro edition. From T's past
descriptions of his customers, they're boobs so the Pro version will
offer them no advantage, be beyond their abilities to administer, and
just waste money.


The way he expressed himself in his post, it was pretty clear that he
was a single user wondering whether he would simply be better off with
Pro over Home. As such, for a person matching his profile, BitLocker
is the feature most likely to pique his interest. THAT is why I
highlighted IT and not the others.
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