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Old July 2nd 19, 05:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 12:42:53 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:34:03 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 11:16:44 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

There are sticker's on both the 8500 and 780
although I don't know if they are COA's

We'll tackle getting the key when the DVD-R's
arrive.

So that's not a certificate then what is it? I
assume I'm still OK? Is there a way of checking
if my certificate is OK?

This popped up yesterday after I loaded the drivers
and I ran it as part of the procedure but it came back
today:

http://i63.tinypic.com/2d19wg1.jpg

Robert
Usually the browser will warn if there's a problem
with the trust tree of the certificate scheme. If
a certificate has expired, the browser will usually
warn you, and ask you what you want to do.

If you see the green lock symbol, that probably means
as far as the browser can see, the certificate is OK.
Now, if Avast was enabled, it could be fooling the
browser logic. And that's why your check, and seeing
the "correct agent" is reported under the lock
symbol, indicates there is no systematic problem
caused by the Avast interference.

Any further problems, the browser should tell you.

*******

Your picture (2d19wg1.jpg), is interesting.

The USB3 driver consists of two parts.

There is the driver portion, which makes the port work.
Drivers run in Ring0 and normally don't have permission
problems.

But, the USB3MON executable, is used to make a tray
notification dialog in the lower right corner.

It has to be elevated, as it's dealing with hardware
and drivers.

What the USB3MON prints on the screen is

"This device could go faster, if you plugged
it into a USB3 port".

That's the kind of message it delivers.

In other words, having the monitor run, isn't really
necessary. If you plug a blue-cable device into a blue
port, then everything should work and the USB3MON would
be unnecessary. It's for naive people who don't know what
USB3 is, and that their computer has two port types,
and the peripherals come in USB2 and USB3 types. The message
the USB3MON gives, is to help people plug the blue-cable
devices into the blue port.

Now, you probably installed that driver using
your administrator-group account. If there was
a tick box to "install for all users", perhaps
the elevation would be handled correctly.

The reason that message is showing now, is you're using
your Limited User account (using it for safety reasons),
and the USB3MON is not getting elevated as normal.

To stop that, you can use any "startup item adjusting tool",
such as Autoruns. Perhaps msconfig could also do it (but
you have to be careful to not enable any other functions
in msconfig).

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...loads/autoruns

It's a graphical program. You let it display everything
(the default). Try and locate the USB3MON item, if it
is labeled properly, and untick it. That may be enough,
when Autoruns is run under your Limited User account,
to stop it.

After Autoruns has unticked the box, you should never
see that prompt to elevate again. *But*, if you re-install
the Intel USB3 driver, the same situation could arise again,
and you would need to use Autoruns again to remove it. The
Autoruns settings do not "persist against all odds". Any
code with the capability to "put stuff back", will undo
what Autoruns has done.

I don't run Limited User here, so my experience with
it is "limited" :-)

Just a guess,
Paul

I saved Autoruns but don't know which file to select to run it.


http://i65.tinypic.com/10562v7.jpg


Robert
The .chm file is a "Help file". You can click that
and seek help. There may be an Index of help topics.

The Autoruns64.exe looks like a good first try.

I just used the 32 bit version "Autoruns.exe" to make this picture.
My brand of USB3 is different than yours, but you can see
the "theme" of the entry is the same. Similar naming and
so on.

https://i.postimg.cc/RZzyhsft/autoruns.gif

Paul

I tried running Autoruns64.exe
then went to .chm to look for any
help topics.

http://i65.tinypic.com/10562v7.jpg filelist

http://i67.tinypic.com/2l8yvjt.jpg autoruns help file

http://i63.tinypic.com/1571wdc.jpg ... says archive root directory

http://i68.tinypic.com/kd4ygi.jpg

Why does my page look so different
than yours?

Thanks,
Robert

When you download a ZIP file, you have to unpack it.

If you right-click while you are "inside" the ZIP.
the menu has an "Extract" option.

7ZIP can do a similar thing. Right-click a ZIP file
while you have 7ZIP installed, and there are Open Archive
and Extract type options as well.

Once the ZIP is unpacked into a like-named folder, then
things should behave a bit better.

Paul


I tried again but really didn't know
if I should run it or replace the file
on how I should proceed so cancelled it:
Could you point me in the right direction?

http://i63.tinypic.com/2v2gtmp.jpg UAC prompt for autoruns.exe

http://i63.tinypic.com/o6jrb4.jpg (Context menu while inside a ZIP with explorer)

http://i65.tinypic.com/t9jfdg.jpg Appears to be 7ZIP preparing to extract autoruns.exe

http://i66.tinypic.com/1z68vsy.jpg Nope, too deep, extract .text segment of EXE.
Naughty.
Thanks,
Robert


Microsoft's idea of virtual folders seems lost on you.

We need a drag and drop extractor or something. It
seems like my idea of showing you 7ZIP just isn't
working out.

autoruns.zip === this is an archive file

autoruns File Explorer allows you to look inside. Neat.
autoruns.exe You can see all the files in there.
autoruns.chm

OK, so when you're inside a ZIP like that, thanks
to File Explorer, it's none too clear to the user,
exactly where they are. They're not in Kansas any more.
They're in a kind of virtual folder.

This concept was invented, to reduce the need to use
WinZIP all the time, to do stuff. Before virtual folders
like this were invented, people would do this

download autoruns.zip

use WinZIP to convert autoruns.zip to folder autoruns with files inside.
The folder would typically then, be placed right next to the ZIP.

autoruns.zip

autoruns\
autoruns.exe
autoruns.chm

Now, everyone understands that concept.

However, Microsoft thought it would be cool, to instead allow
you to enter the ZIP for a look around, without even owning
a copy of WinZIP or PKZip.

When you're inside, the "Type" field in File Explorer might
be the only hint, you've "gone down a rabbit hole".

*******

Here are some pictures, two ways of doing things.

The items in blue, cut to the chase.

https://i.postimg.cc/mZn31CWy/extraction.gif

7-ZIP comes in handy, if the file ends in .rar, .cab,
..gz, .bzip, .xz plus a bunch more.

Windows is good at .zip and .cab, and there are
built-in tools for those.

*******

You need to "Extract the folder" using one of the
blue methods, placing the folder at the same level
as the original ZIP.

Once the folder is available, double-clicking
autoruns.exe should present the window I showed
originally. Then you can turn off the USB3MON thing.

Paul
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