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Old January 4th 18, 03:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Java Jive news Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:57:29 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

So I repeat, cut the bull**** and stick to the facts.


I didn't provide any.

Who said anything about using Windows update to get the updates?


I said that "the rebuilt installation will not get any updates,
not even the ones originally targeting XP" and that remains true.


Except that it isn't true. As you've learned (but not from actual
usage) WSUS can provide the updates Windows XP may (I haven't had
time to confirm this for myself) no longer retrieve on it's own.

I'm interested to find that some or all of them may be available
via WSUS, and it's something I may well investigate, but what I
actually wrote above was true.


What you wrote above was based on the fact that you incorrectly
assumed you had to use Windows Update from within the host OS to get
updates. You don't. I can actually create a Windows 7 or later update
disc, using widows XP if I so desired. Corporate systems I'm familiar
with didn't let individual workstations get updates via Windows
update either. So, I'm a little unsure about your corporate
experience claims at this point. But, I don't much care what you
claimed to do either. I'm only interested in what you write and the
lack of knowledge you continue to demonstrate concerning the subject.

[Another big snip of bull****, that at a cursory glance looked
sufficiently irrelevant that I didn't bother to read it further]


ROFL. Seems I've struck a nerve. How long have you been retired?

Okay, so for your test, the key on the product sticker was the
one used to load it previously, vs the SLIC key being used in
it's place as it would originally have been if it had been a name
brand PC that was preloaded from factory.


NO IT WASN'T! Stop making an ass of yourself, if you possibly
can, clear your head for just a second or two of all those
unfounded ideas of your own self-importance, and in those few
fleeting seconds actually bother to read exactly what I wrote,
which was:


Yep. I struck a nerve.

On 02/01/2018 23:31, Java Jive wrote:
They will only re-activate old 'legit' ones, as long as they are
on the same or similar equipment. How similar the equipment
actually has to be is, I grant, a matter of debate but in tests
I did same make different model of laptop worked, but home built
desktop unsurprisingly wouldn't work with a key from a laptop.


Note: SAME MAKE DIFFERENT MODEL OF LAPTOP WORKED! An XP product
key from the sticker of a laptop that had died (and that I had
cannibalised for parts to repair a second one of the same model,
which is still working now, running XP, activated according to the
product key on its own sticker, as it should be) was applied
successfully to a third that had a Vista product key sticker, and
this also is still working now, running XP, activated.

So an XP product key from one model of laptop was applied
successfully to a different model of laptop that came with a Vista
product key sticker.


That doesn't mean anything in the context of our hilarious
discussion, though. Those are OEM keys. Perhaps, you've been retired
long enough that you don't know what a SLIC install is? It's obvious
you don't, as you snipped a considerable amount of what I wrote
concerning them. Infact, you incorrectly claimed it was bull****.
Along with the iso conversion options you have, thanks to four files
present on the disc. You've either been retired a very long time,
predating XP by several years retirement, or, you were never much of
an actual tech yourself.

[Another big snip of bull****, that at a cursory glance looked
sufficiently irrelevant that I didn't bother to read it further]


I didn't provide any bull****. What I wrote concerning the isos and
what you can do with them isn't uncommon knowledge to techs I know.
Perhaps it's all 'new' to you, and thus dismissed as bull**** because
you've been a small step above that of an end user during your career
and have been retired for a long time now?

At the end of the day though, it doesn't matter to me. What you wrote
concerning XP isn't of any real use to the OP. You weren't even able
to provide them the console instructions to bring up the activation
window so they could try. I did. Without any assistance from you, I
might add. And you knew nothing about WSUS until I told you about it,
which doesn't sound like a well versed tech to me. It sounds more
like someone who baby sat machines and reloaded from image in the
corporate world. And, uhh, that's not a tech in the trenches.

I would hope you didn't dismiss what I wrote about VLK XP as being
bull**** along with the other technical information I provided. As,
that too can be fact checked, and, I have no problem with everything
I've written being fact checked for accuracy. Do you know why?
Although you probably don't care, I'll tell you anyway. It pleases me
to have people doubt me only to find out I was accurate and truthful
with them the entire time. I only wish I could be present to see the
look on their faces when they find out for themselves.


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