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Old August 15th 04, 01:22 AM
Chad Harris
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Default Lady Mac Scene V Act 1:35

Kelly--

One of the places it is best known for is Lady Macbeth Scene V Act 1 Line
35.
"Out, damn'd spot!" Lady Macbeth cries, "out, I say!" (V:i:35). Some count
it as line 34.

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...+macbeth&hl=en

http://www.toxiccustard.com/shakespeare/macbeth5ix.html

http://www.toxiccustard.com/shakespeare/


With all the sites spinning off of this quote for a million different
purposes, and all the Shakespeare sites--some incredibly good, I was
wondering what it must be like to take a lap top to school when your mom has
one of the best Windows sites on the web instead of sitting in a hot
terribly lit library lugging huge books out of it, and trying to find a book
to write your paper(the *one you have to have*) that won't ever be back in
the library. You could take notes in your classes with a cheap mike and One
Note and write your papers with Word and the internet and turn them in
electronically with hyperlinks instead of footnotes.

Chad
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"Kelly" wrote in message
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LOL Doubt it was Macbeth, though. Good luck!

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Chad Harris" wrote in message
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Kelly--

1) If I'm posting in HTML again, it's really difficult to tell how.
Everything is turned off at every possible html spicket. I have both mail
and newsgroups set to plain text on the ToolsOptions send.

2) When I click on the Reply icon on the toolbar, it automatically sets up
to format in html--I have no clue why nor does anyone else here, and I'll
take it to the OE MVPs but I am turning it off manually by selecting
FormatPlain text on the newsgroup message. If this message posts as html,
I'm missing something gigantic.

3) My reference to "Is It true" was a registry key I pasted when HTML
kicked in automatically and I didn't know it--that retained HTML
formatting and it brought the comment "html?" from you in a post the other
day--Same issue as #2 and the same thing I pasted from here in your SR
article on your site at the bottom. It didn't have anything to do with
*any SR thread* you "worked."

I *really* appreciate the clarification from Ron here--it helps--I was
caught off guard thinking that if you only put text in the message and the
bar is down you aren't posting in html--now I know you are-- but the bar
(the one that doesn't exist in Jan's universe but does in Microsoft's
IE/OE development team's) won't be staying down at least in this group.

"When you are composing the message, Format, Plain Text.
If you have the formatting bar in your composition window, you are using
HTML even if you only put text in the message."

There shouldn't be a relationship with the Mail Sending Format and the
Email sending format but maybe there is. I think Tom Koch and many others
have pointed out that OE has not been the most perfectly crafted (to use
the over-worked TV talking head Congressional buzz word) application--it's
free but it brings the newsgroups a lot better than the web interface so
it's valuable. It also is easier to use for mail than Outlook for some
new users.

BTW I pasted that title below from the System Restore web page on your
site linked below into Notepad and it came into this message *still in a
bold format,* but my friend the HTML Formatting bar wasn't showing. So as
not to risk it, I just wiped it out and typed it.

Highlights of System Restore Fixes in SP1

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm

So I'll look for the answer to those two questions from OE
MVPs/mavens/experts/enthusiasts

1) Why does the ##%%%&&** bar persist in showing up when I click reply on
the message toolbar under subject so that I manually have to turn it off
(mouse clicks not digging ditches)?

2) Why did the title from your webpage at the bottom from the piece that
Anshul Rawat [MS] wrote persist in bold even after I stripped it into
notepad?

If anyone knows another place to stop html I'm all ears for this--if it's
still showing up. I seriously doubt it is. I thought I hit every
location on the OE menus possible.

Chad



"Kelly" wrote in message
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Chad,

You are posting in html again.

As for your line: SR, Is it True,Why?......I have no clue what you are
speaking of. If it is on my site, you would have to give more information
as to which section, etc.

However, I haven't worked any SR threads as of late, so don't even know
why
you are bringing this up in this thread, anyway. I would suggest starting
a
new one for someone else.

As for your settings for OE (to view, read and send in plain text) has
already been explained and you verified. As for hyperlinks, etc. as you
can
clearly see, my signature contain one, 90% of the body of my replies
contain
them and I post in plain text.

To prevent posting in html using OE don't use Rich Text.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Chad Harris" wrote in message
...
Sorry for being so dense. What you meant is that the different formatting
on your SR article (possibly supplied by the guy who wrote it) would be
stripped and wouldn't have been reproduced after notepad stripped it. Had
I
known it would bother someone, I could have easily reformatted it before
posting by simply moving it next to regular plain text--the same way large
MSKB titles get changed or anything else. I really was suprised when it
was
prerved just as I was surprised when that reg key was preserved from Is It
True? Why? Because they never had been before--and I assumed they would
be
stripped automaticaly. That's what happened.

You're right about OE problems going to OE, and normally that's what I'd
do.
I wonder though if you can answer one question that still has me confused.

If the html formatting bar or whatever you would like to name it (I know
Jan
says it doesn't exist) but Microsoft does in a dozen places cubed) is
down--and it does show up on this group and not others when I click reply
on
the OE toolbar but the only thing you are posting is plain text--you
aren't
underlining anything or I paste a link from Kelly's XP how have I posted
in
html--I'm not arguing I'm just trying to figure this out. That bar has
come
down hundreds of times in this group, but I never got a complaint when you
were on the thread and I think the reason is because regular hyperlinks
and
text were just plain text and hyperlinks on the post. What changed was
that font preserved in your Sys Restore article.

BTW Kelly--That little tidbit of very important information is mentioned
absolutely nowhere I can find on the web going to scores of XP sites and
SR
articles. It's key to understanding why so many people complained SR
won't
work. Before I saw that I attributed it to dirty shutdowns and corrupted
restore points as the logical cause it failed, although of course there
could have been some others.

MSFT doesn't mention it anywhere on MSDN or Technet or any of their KBs on
SP1 or SR. And wouldn't you agree that if I interpret it correctly, a
whole
lot of people walked away from trying to use SR to save their system or
make
a change believing SR was just not effective. The guy from the SR team
never explained exactly how people were locked away from the restore
point,
but if they didn't reach it, they weren't going to get the snapshot of the
registry back to before the problem they were trying to fix.

Right now the bar is down. But I'm not pasting so much as a hyperlink so
there shouldn't be any html deployed and shouldn't even if I do paste a
hyperlink. It would only become a problem if I did something with a font
or
paragraph formatting, ect. wouldn't it? I'm not trying to run this into
the
ground, or foist an OE problem on the XP group, but I know you can
straighten me out on this one.

Is there anything in this post that causes any html problems Jan or anyone
else outlined. The checks or radio buttons have been in the correct box
on the send tab, but it comes down and on this group for reasons that
escape
me but not other MSFT public groups. I can take that question to OE--I
just
wonder if there is anything showing here that steps over the html line?
My
guess is no.

Thanks,

Chad Harris


"Kelly" wrote in message
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Chad,

I do appreciate your wanting to understand/critique things, but beings
this
is an OE issue, perhaps you could visit the great guys and gals in the OE
groups where this type of thing is discussed daily. )

I wasn't that upset, or trying to make a big deal out of this....


Glad to hear and maybe it is time to move on?

Also I know you hae a reason for everything you say, and I was trying

to
figure out what I didn't appreciate about the step of pasting into
notepad. If I'm missing something there, and you can also clarify what
shows up as html if the only thing you do is paste a hyperlink, I'd
appreciate it.


This had to do with a mention you made about doing a copy and paste from
a
website. Again, when you are doing so (because of formatting, etc) copy
it
into Notepad before copying it here. Simple! )
--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Chad Harris" wrote in message
...
Kelly--

I wasn't that upset, or trying to make a big deal out of this, just a
little miffed when Jan kept pushing the "lack of consideration by

intent
element." I'm pretty familiar with the options tabs, although I can't
recite from rote what's on them, but after the first couple messages I
double checked to see if there was any stone I was leaving unturned,

and
why in the world the html formatting bar or whatever you want to call

it
was showing up. I made sure that I had the two places that address

plain
text configured for it on the send tab, and went over the "plain text
dialogue box" whose options I don't claim to understand perfectly even
after seeing them contexted in the IE box--but to make sure that they
wouldn't contribute. So what I do if I see the bar is just to go to
format and select Plain Text and it goes away.

Another thing that contributed to making html posts was when the html

bar
was down for whatever reason, I thought that if I wasn't going to do
anything but paste a hyperlink, (i.e. not underline or italicize or

bold
type any words), then even if it had been set on html there would be
*nothing to show up as html*. Obviously, this isn't the case. I
understand from David that Ctrl+3 can give you that information and

some
additional informaiton, but what puzzles me is *what would show as

html
or cause the bandwidth problems if you didn't have an off-sized font

and
you didn't do anything else.

Also I know you hae a reason for everything you say, and I was trying

to
figure out what I didn't appreciate about the step of pasting into
notepad. If I'm missing something there, and you can also clarify what
shows up as html if the only thing you do is paste a hyperlink, I'd
appreciate it.

Chad


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"Kelly" wrote in message
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Chad,

I didn't mean to get you upset. IF your settings were as you claim a

week
or so ago, this would not be happening, thus my thinking it was third
party.
IF and when you see the html bar appear, it means that you will be

posting
to the like, thus your settings aren't as you claimed.

As for attachments, that is different than posting html. Attachments

can
be
included via plain text and are on rare occasions here.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Chad Harris" wrote in message
...
It is getting old Kelly The html bar I'm seeing as explicitly and
expressly
as I can convey it is native to OE (and as you say a component of

IE/XP)
and
it shows up if I click FormatRich texthtml. *It's not part of any

3rd
party app.* It's native to OE meaning IE meaning XP. My question was

not
*what notepad is or where I can find it*--it was introduced in Windows

95
(and there are many free apps that are notepad on steroids like

Notepad
XP)--actually two different 3rd parties have that name--

http://www.acsoftware.org/

that have 10 X the features of Notepad, but I didn't see the point of
having to test paste a link into notepad if a plain link will show up

as
in
this message formatted in plain text--it just seemed like a wasted

step.
But you always say things for a good reason, so I asked why and I'm

still
asking why?

For whatever reason, once in a while when I open a new message or

reply
message it shows up and if it does I click format and change back to
plain
text and it's gone.

The ratio of times I posted in html versus plain text have been less

than
.05% of posts. And I still don't understand what the **huge deal is
about
posting in html*** partly for the reasons David Candy gave above, and
because bold text or underlining makes it easier than a lousy

asterick
to
emphasize a phrase and allow it to stand out. Italics have their

place
for
the same reason you see them every where else. Are there really that
many
on dial up who are *that compromised by an ocassional italic or bold
word?*
I wasn't talking about posting images or attachements, although there
should
be a mechanism for that to happen too.

On one of the Office groups, because there have been an epidemic of
problems
installing Office 2003 SP1 requiring the Resource Kit tools and
interpretation of Hotfix_MSI logs, MSFT has encouraged posting
attachments
of the logs. It's the same kind of binary group as this one on the

NTTP
newsreader.

Best,

Chad Harris


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"Kelly" wrote in message
...
Chad,

Not to be rude, but this is getting old. Other than that, whatever

html
bar
you are seeing and speaking of, is not native nor related to XP (thus
also
meaning OE). And no, I didn't mean the URL, I meant the body.

Notepad
is
a
simple text editor program that comes with all versions of Windows.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Chad Harris" wrote in message
...
Kelly--

I have noticed since this came up that sometimes the HTML bar kicks

in
when
I get ready to reply and I don't know why. This is after several
posts
in
plain text where plain text has been selected.
If I see it, I switch to plain text, and if I was chain posting in
html
it
wasn't meant to happen.

The spell checker is not on the blink. I don't use one, so I have

to
watch
the typos. I can spell somewhat, and I dictionary the words I need
help
spelling. I like it in Wordmail in OL, but here in OE news, it

just
drives
me crazy because (although I understand it's supposed to have a
learning
curve) it stops on many words and software terms that aren't
misspelled.
So I'll try to do a better job proofreading.

I don't understand why you suggest that if you copy and paste from

a
website
(I'm sure you mean the url here), *you should to do it in notepad
first.*
If, and I don't understand the why of this exactly, as Jan said, in
OE,
in
text mode all hyperlinks are clickable, so you can paste hyperlinks

in
a
plain text message and they are clickable, what do you gain by

opening
notepad and pasting them in there first?

Thanks,

Chad Harris


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"Kelly" wrote in message
...
Chad,

Your spell checker seems to be misbehaving. ) Other than that,
you
were
posting in html, until this post.

As for the latter: Whenever you copy and paste from a website -
paste
it
into Notepad first, then copy and paste again.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Chad Harris" wrote in message
...
Plato--

This is another convenience, but I think one of your best bets

is
to
use
the Accessbility chek box so that you can rheostat anythng you

see
here.

Use Kelly's Tweak Line 227 Left:

Set IE Fonts to Smaller or Larger

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs...smallertxt.reg

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Best,

Chad Harris


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"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Chad Harris wrote:

There have been a number of installation errors of the July

27th

Since your going to post in html with a mini font, pick one

that
is
even
smaller to give my eyes an even better workout.















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