On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 21:58:16 -0400, Mayayana wrote:
Interesting. That one is dead for me in DH.
It was an arbitrary "vevo" link in that it was the first song found in the
2018 list of top songs search. I presume that worked for you in
youtube-dl.exe (but not in DownloadHelper).
That would indicate that, at least for that one Vevo song, that the
youtube-dl.exe is more robust - but we'd have to check lots to make that
conclusion accurate.
But this worked fine:
youtube-dl --no-check-certificate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk
I never used the "no-check-certificate" where I see it does this
--no-check-certificate = Suppress HTTPS certificate validation
Does that save time?
What's the reason for that option?
I should note that I never let them stream or enable
javascript. So the video has to be available directly from
the page. But your link worked fine. And that's just the
kind of thing I was talking about: commercial video.
Thanks for confirming that the "vevo" search I did for "top songs of 2018"
came up with the kind of link you wanted. I tested a few more of those
"vevo" links (whatever they are) and they all worked in youtube-dl.exe.
I'm sure there will be some links that might not work, but in that quick
test today all those "vevo" links worked (I deleted them all afterward).
I also have trouble with Vimeo, but I don't have
a link now to try. I'll have to try it next time I do.
I'm just as unfamilair with "vimeo" as I was with "vevo".
Googling for "vimeo" "top songs of 2018", I get this top link
https://vimeo.com/251950481
youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0
https://vimeo.com/251950481
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading webpage
[vimeo] 251950481: Extracting information
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading webpage
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading JSON metadata
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading akfire_interconnect_quic m3u8 information
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading fastly_skyfire m3u8 information
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading akfire_interconnect_quic MPD information
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading akfire_interconnect_quic MPD information
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading fastly_skyfire MPD information
[vimeo] 251950481: Downloading fastly_skyfire MPD information
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 129
[download] Destination: TOP 30 SONGS 2010-2018-251950481.m4a
[download] 100% of 23.54MiB in 06:03
[ffmpeg] Destination: TOP 30 SONGS 2010-2018-251950481.mp3
Deleting original file TOP 30 SONGS 2010-2018-251950481.m4a (pass -k to keep)
The result was "19,245,212 TOP 30 SONGS 2010-2018-251950481.mp3".
If you have a vimeo link you want to test, I can test it for you easily.
I really haven't explored the possibilities with
youtube-dl. Most of the time I just don't care
all that much.
I understand fully.
We all work with software every day.
We spend only as much time as we need to so that we get things done.
If the youtube-dl.exe didn't work to get a song, I'd find some other way.
But the youtube-dl.exe seems to work pretty good on lots of web sites.
Example: Last week I discovered an interesting
character on PBS Firing Line -- a psychologist from
Ontario named Jordan Peterson who's making waves.
I wanted to hear some of his talks and had no
trouble getting them because they're mostly from
non-profit venues.
Until you asked me to look for songs on vimeo, I get almost all if not all
my stuff from youtube. Pretty much anything I want is already on youtube.
But I can understand if you want stuff that is not on youtube.
One thing I'd like to get since I'm NOT an audiophile is a quick playlist
of the top 100 songs of every year, which I could then download overnight
and populate an iPod so that I could LEARN what people are listening to.
Likewise with the top 100 classical pieces that people love most.
Things like that.
The work is in COMPILING an accurate list!
I don't want to do that work since I don't really care to compile my own
list.
All I want is to LEARN what others think, so it would be an AVERAGE.
It would play in the background when I am working on other tasks.
This week I had a bout of nostagia and wanted to
hear some old Phil Ochs songs. I was able to download
some poor quality TV from the 60s, but not official
recordings.
He recorded 238 songs according to Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_by_Phil_Ochs
Phil Ochs - No More Song =
https://youtu.be/p5XBOthE6CQ
youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0
https://youtu.be/p5XBOthE6CQ
[youtube] p5XBOthE6CQ: Downloading webpage
[youtube] p5XBOthE6CQ: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] p5XBOthE6CQ: Extracting video information
WARNING: unable to extract uploader nickname
[download] Destination: Phil Ochs - No More Song-p5XBOthE6CQ.webm
[download] 100% of 4.47MiB in 01:19
[ffmpeg] Destination: Phil Ochs - No More Song-p5XBOthE6CQ.mp3
Deleting original file Phil Ochs - No More Song-p5XBOthE6CQ.webm (pass -k to keep)
This created "8,232,909 Phil Ochs - No More Song-p5XBOthE6CQ.mp3".
Normally I don't listen to music, so it's not something
that I run into regularly.
The only reason I listen to music is to LEARN what others listen to.
Same reason I listen to physics lectures. To LEARN.
Yet everyone is different.
And that's ok.
I have noticed that a lot of these things require
timing. For instance, SNL will post videos of their
shows for marketing purposes. But then a short time
later they disappear and can only be accessed
through the network website, if at all.
You are far more up to date on videos than I am.
Nothing I listen to is timing sensitive.
We're all different.
And that's ok.
| Do you have a specific "vevo" video that is causing you trouble?
| I can test it for you easily.
Anything popular. I did a quick search for "Adele
youtube" and found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqw
Adele - Rolling in the Deep - YouTube
Mix - Adele - Rolling in the Deep YouTube; Adele - Set Fire To The Rain
(Live at The Royal Albert Hall) - Duration: 3:59. AdeleVEVO 454,004,544
views. 3:59.
youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqw
[youtube] rYEDA3JcQqw: Downloading webpage
[youtube] rYEDA3JcQqw: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] rYEDA3JcQqw: Extracting video information
WARNING: unable to extract uploader nickname
[download] Destination: Adele - Rolling in the Deep-rYEDA3JcQqw.webm
[download] 100% of 3.46MiB in 00:58
[ffmpeg] Destination: Adele - Rolling in the Deep-rYEDA3JcQqw.mp3
Deleting original file Adele - Rolling in the Deep-rYEDA3JcQqw.webm (pass -k to keep)
That resulted in "7,056,141 Adele - Rolling in the Deep-rYEDA3JcQqw.mp3".
I just want to be
able to get videos that are legal to get.
I'm not a lawyer.
I don't even make believe I play being one.
Therefore what I "think" is legal isn't up to me.
Even so, I'm "allowed" to use common sense.
Here is a set of "common sense" that people could easily argue about.
But they're still common sense topics that are arguably valid.
Youtube clearly HOSTS the videos.
Youtube has RULES which if you actually go to the YOUTUBE web site, might
apply. Just because youtube says something doesn't make it legal in any
place, or in every place, in any situation, or in every situation.
Also, Youtube has rules which apply to people who LOG IN.
Those rules can be different than people who just LISTEN to videos.
Here are some more common sense arguably valid logical thoughts.
It's clear that Youtube knows all about youtube-dl.exe.
Certainly Youtube has the source code. Of that there is no doubt.
Youtube-dl.exe has been around for YEARS. Of that there is no doubt.
If youtube wanted to BREAK the youtube-dl.exe mechanism, they could.
If youtube wanted to sue the youtube people - they would.
There would be an injunction in fifteen seconds flat.
Youtube certainly has the MONEY to make their lives miserable.
Does youtube use their money to make youtube.dl.exe lives miserable?
I don't know. I am not a lawyer. So I don't look up court cases.
It certainly hasn't hit the news like napster did.
Or if it did hit the news, then I missed it.
So did you and everyone else most likely.
Is downloading from youtube legal?
Well, first thing I will repeat is that I don't know.
Second thing I will repeat is youtube can say anything they want.
Saying stuff doesn't make it legal.
Nor does saying stuff make it legal everywhere.
Nor does saying stuff make it legal in all circumstances.
I don't know what youtube says.
You know why that doesn't matter?
Because youtube-dl.exe is what I use.
It says nothing.
It doesn't even log into the web page.
I like that you used a switch that didn't even look at the web page.
My position is that it doesn't matter what youtube says if youtube isn't
being used. The program uses whatever URL I give it. I don't ever read a
youtube page nor do I agree to any youtube agreement. I don't even know
what the youtube agreement entails because I don't visit the youtube web
page (if I have a list of URLs anyway).
Long story.
But the short ending is that if youtube thought it was illegal, they have
the money to shut them down. So it's clearly not illegal.
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer. That is just a logical opinion that is based
on facts that are those that I outlined above. There could be plenty of
other facts I don't know about. I'm sure some goody two shoes is going to
scream that it's piracy but they need to fit that into the facts above.
Anyone who thinks it's piracy has to explain what agreement I signed.
They have to explain whether that agreement is legal where I live.
And they have to explain how that agreement applies to me.
Also, they have to explain why youtube doesn't have an injunction.
In real estate terms, if you let people walk all over a path then they can
get a prescriptive easement to walk on that path forever simply because you
let them do it for years. It's basic English Common Law stuff.
Again, I'm NOT a lawyer. I never said I was. If you're a lawyer, say so.
It's ok to have a discussion. But I see it as completely legal.
BTW, I deleted all the above downloaded files.
Why?
I didn't want them.
They were just a test.