I did a Macrium update then did a Mrimg backup (with comments)
on the 780 to the present.

I had an optional update on the 780 but it wouldn't update after trying
(3) times. It came up again when I opened the Action Center. When I
clicked 'Try Again' it came back with 'Windows is up to date' and the
optional update disappeared again. I'm sure we'll see it again

https://postimg.cc/BjWhSh0t

https://postimg.cc/1fDGHsk5

https://postimg.cc/d7Nr11yn


Honesty, I can't remember a thing I've added. I only download programs
when you give me a link because of my history with downloads and picking
the wrong one. I do get warnings occasionally even on news pages and eBay
when I haven't clicked a thing but Avast seems to take care of them and I don't
see any infections after scans but something could still be there. I thought the
Autoscans showed the problem (not verified) in the shaded areas?

Here are the 8500 program files but I have no idea which if any would
use a hotkey:

https://postimg.cc/67MqNFXs

https://postimg.cc/ykhVH2mf

here are the 780 programs files:

https://postimg.cc/grQmGPBp

https://postimg.cc/tZ8wG9Rm

In passing, the 8500 and the 780 both passed their Smart scans.

I still think we should give a new keyboard a try vs an old one. Only because
a new mouse fixed all the problems I was having and we've done allot to check
the software. I can always use a new keyboard and we have nothing to loose.
If that's it then we can proceed to create a new backup and then Win 7 Professional
clones for the 780 and 8500.

So what do you think of the keyboards? I like the Logitech the best and it's also
the cheapest.

https://www.newegg.com/logitech-k350...-076-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-erg...quicklink=true

https://www.newegg.com/fellowes-micr...-007-_-Product

Robert