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You should know better with all your experience and education.
"Twayne" wrote in message
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tinw

Earle

You are having another bad day. Did you read the OP's post . Ken's
reply was appropriate and correct(All of we) and in proper English be
it British,Australian ,American , Canadian and etc.

Might not have been in South African English but it was correct for
all others

"Earle Horton" wrote in message
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"All of we" does not appear on that page. In this case the pronoun
is the object of the preposition "of" and so the accusative pronoun
is required. According to the advice on the page, which is not bad,
«decide which case fits by narrowing the sentence down to the
subject and the verb. If your pronoun is neither of these then use
"us".» Object of a pronoun, therefore "us". The rules are so
simple...

Now which use of Ken's is "correct"? He says "all of we" and "any
of us" as if both were permissible. According to my quick Live
Search results, one person out of 1699 agrees with the first use.
The inconsistency is the part that tells me not to take this guy
seriously. Learn to read, and if you post a link as evidence of
your position, read it first.

--
Earle Horton --

"Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote in message
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Ken's use of "we" is correct. You can begin your basic studying
he
http://www.one-step-forward.net/2007...versus-we.html

"Earle Horton" wrote in message
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"All of us". That should kill the OP's hope of contacting any
intelligent
live via this avenue. Live Search has 29,900,000 results using
normal grammar, and 17,600 using what you have. Do people
actually talk like
that?
I wouldn't have said anything, but you used the correct form later.

--
Earle Horton --
-- Defender of the English language.

"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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"Vodkasoda" wrote in message
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It's a valid and interesting question, and judging by the 40+
responses
it
has rattled a few cages ... perhaps now that their cages have
been rattled
and they are awake, perhaps some of the MVPs (real and fake)
might
like
to
try and answer why Windows Live Messenger is crashing in Vista
...
and
if
they don't know then to raise the issue with people who might
know or
be
able
to find out ...

Three points:

1. All of we MVPs are volunteers

2. All of we MVPs know some things very well, others slightly, and
still
others not at all. I, for example, have no interest in Windows
Live Messenger, know nothing about it, and can't help you
regarding any problems you have with it.

3. Some MVPs may have the ability to discuss certain types of
problems with the appropriate Microsoft employees; others don't.
In many cases,
we
wouldn't even know who to raise an issue with. Regarding Windows
Messenger, not only do I not know anything about it, but I don't
even
know
the name of a Microsoft employee who does. Moreover, this is not
an established method of getting problems solved, and even if I
knew the right person at Microsoft and asked him, there is no
guarantee that it would lead to a solution.

perhaps that mught be a more valuable use of their time than
arguing and whining, after all, isn't that supposed to be what
they
are
here
for ?!?!?

No, not at all. We are volunteers who each have knowledge in
certain
areas
only. It's for that reason that each of answers some questions and
ignore
others, about which we know nothing (or at least not enough)
entirely.

They're of no VALUE to me if they don't help resolve this issues
I
raise
!!!

Then feel free to ignore or even killfile all of us. There is no
requirement that any of us be of any value to you.