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Old March 22nd 18, 08:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
HB[_3_]
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Default Toshiba W-7 went dark


"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , HB writes:


.. (We haven't tested the sound, wifi, or
USB parts, but I have no reason to believe they aren't fine. They _can_
be tested from Linux if necessary, but someone else will have to tell
you how. I don't think it's necessary.)


So I would have to find a legal copy of W-7 64bit somewhere. I know the
disk I made from this PC wont boot the Toshiba. And it's also a W-7 64bit.
A new disk would get it to boot? I know the rescue disks wont boot it.

I don't know if this is helpful or not but they're images from Linux of the
Toshiba's information I took this afternoon.

https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/03ec0845/
https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/hx3j203o9/IM004778.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/clomhapbd/IM004779.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj58s9/IM004780.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/v193epql5/IM004781.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj5gi1/IM004782.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5igr1peqx/IM004783.jpg

In noticed this: Error 930 occured at disk power-on lifetime:1243 hours (51
days + 19 hours) When the command that caused the error occured, the device
was active or idle.

Well typing that in the command prompt or whatever Linux called it did not
bring up the info shown in the online image.

See later.


Please see what it brought up this time. Pics are above. It brought up a
lot of info.

First time, you typed it with a capital S; second time, you added
"return" onto the end. What we wanted you to type was just


smartctl -a /dev/sda

See images above. Note all lowcase and what the command brought up - 7
screens of information.


What is the PBC? I'm looking at those images still don't know which to buy


shown on the 2 pages. I need both? I'm not following this since I never


No, you don't need both (see below).


saw anyone use anything like this. Where does that metal tab on the HD go?


(Not sure what you mean by that metal tab; a SATA drive just has the two
connectors. Anything else is just mounting arrangements. Post a picture
of the drive if you like, and we'll say what's what.)


It appears to be for mounting the HD and keeping it snugly in place.

The HD lays next to this thing with it's 2 cables plugged into it?


Or, you could use the ($4.04 was it?) or so cable another poster has
found; that basically does the same as the housing, other than that the
drive lays bare rather than being in a case. As long as the USB end has
_two_ USB plugs to ensure it gets enough power; it _might_ work with
only one, but it'd be a pity to discard the drive as not appearing to
work, just because it wasn't getting enough power.


One USB port works the Seagate. The DT PC has 2 USB ports close together.
The Tosh's HD can lay there naked as a Jay-bird, uncased, since it would
only be to test the Tosh's HD, not be a permanant extra external HD.

All of these four do the same two things: (a) translate USB to and from
SATA, so you can read/write/control the drive from the working PC, and
(b) provide power to the drive, either from an external supply (that
comes with the kit) or from (ideally two) USB ports.


The healthy PC has 2 USB ports, so not problem. Maybe by looking at all the
data Linux brought up someone can tell what the problem is.

The W10 update danger has passed: about a year ago (IIRR), Microsoft
provided updates to Windows 7 that, unless you were very careful,
updated a W7 machine to W10.


I was well aware of that and avoided it like the plague. Tosh did not update
to W-10, none did. The MS offer was ignored. The last laptop and the Tablet
came with W-10.

Two (main, anyway) outfits produced
utilities you could install to make sure this did not happen. But that's
over now, and it doesn't look likely that MS will do it again (though
you can never be sure), so it's (probably) no longer a worry.


Since nothing I tried stopped the MS's updates on W-10, the next time MS may
also force W-11 and 12 and how knows how many other "upgrades/updates" on
us.

updates, and the recent problem with OE6 not keeping passwords......
belive

That turned out to be a red herring - it wasn't OE6 (which won't run
under W7 anyway), it was an OE6 lookalike (from xsforall IIRR). And I
think even that got better (started remembering passwords again).


Yeah! Software, heal thyself. I call it OE6 for lack of a better short
name for it.

me, you guys are not boring compared to the reading I've done recently.
:^)


You might also consider getting a 2.5" SATA drive: it does rather look
as if the one in the Tosh is unwell, so would have to be replaced, but
even if it isn't, you could use it for keeping backup images on, as you
do the Seagate one.


This is true and will be passing Best Buy in a week or so. I want to check
in with them. Do the images of what
smartctl -a /dev/sda brought up this time help any?
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Morality is doing what's right
without the threat of divine retribution
nor the possiblity of divine reward.

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