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Old September 27th 18, 08:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops

"Arlen H. Holder"
news alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

The "problem" with LinuxReader might be that it's apparently read
only.


That's NOT a problem. The author of the program knows how risky it is
to perform writes of any kind on NTFS...

You have to understand that NTFS isn't public/open source.
Documentation on it is sketcky on a good day. Those who have reliable
docs are under an NDA. Any drivers you find on linux that can read
and or write to NTFS is due entirely to 3rd party reverse engineering
efforts. Reverse engineering isn't perfect. Some things can be
missed. Changes in the NTFS file system are known to occur from time
to time. Some are larger than others, but, any is enough to make a
driver unsafe to use for writing.

XP and Vista for example are not using the same version of NTFS.

I also found Paragon payware, where they seem to be the go-to guys
for commercial solutions on both Windows & the Mac:
https://www.paragon-software.com/business/extfs-for-windows/


I can highly recommend their apps if you have a serious need for
their usage. They aren't relying on 3rd party reverse engineering
efforts to read or write NTFS. They have MS documentation and their
blessing.


As you're all well aware, the expense of freeware is almost all in
the choosing of the best ones, so my "added value" to the team is
simply those initial insights - where I ask for more insight from
experienced users.


That isn't always the only expense. Depending on the value of data
that can be lost from using freeware (or payware for that matter)
might supersede it's value.

However, my weapon of choice to READ (not write!) ext/2/3/4 is
7-Zip. Both the command line program (7z.exe) and the 7z file
manager (7zFM.exe) support full read access to physical drives
(and files) in ext2/3/4 format. I've never seen the need to use
any other tool for that purpose. And I would never use a Windows
app to WRITE to an ext2/3/4 file system.


Wow! That's a neat idea, if it works!


It does. You'll notice, they specifically (like myself) do NOT
encourage the use of ANY linux based software to WRITE to any NTFS
based file system. There IS a valid reason for that.

Thank you for potentially furthering our knowledge. I already had
7Zip so I brought up the GUI, but it's not obvious to me what's
the first step after bringing up 7Zip on Windows to access a
foreign file system such as the dual-boot Linux partition is:
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=56940667zip.png


You keep using our/we, etc.. Do you have a turd in your pocket or
something? On this thread, I haven't seen you contribute tribal
knowledge (wtf is that exactly?). I've seen various others share
(except for 7zip, I'll give you that's probably not completely common
knowledge, but it is mentioned in their faq; if anybody reads those
(I do) what I consider to be common knowledge and vary sound advice.

Can you give us a hint as to the next step in 7Zip to access the
Linux partitions under a typical dual-boot of Windows 10 and
Ubuntu 18.04?


Is google broken?

What exactly are you calling a typical dual boot configuration? I'll
give you a cluebyfour for free, no charge. not even shipping and
handling; there's no such thing. Each one is going to be a little
different, based on internal hardware and drive geometry differences.
Not to mention user choice when it comes to kernel selection on
Ubuntu.

I'll let you slide on those pesky details because I haven't seen you
claim to be anything more than a power level end user. Had you
claimed to be a technician or something instead, I'd show you no
mercy.


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