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Old March 18th 19, 11:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Commander Kinsey
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Default Virus on page?

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 21:57:57 -0000, Mayayana wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote

| Shouldn't the plugin get auto-updated? If Wordpress design a system where
any old fool can make a website using their tools, the tools should run from
somewhere where they're updated, without Joe Bloggs having to know.
|
They give the tools away for free. It's not Wordpress'
responsibility.


Yeah lets make dodgy tools that are full of security holes and give them away. Great way to ruin your company's reputation.

| Convenience. I can webchat with someone in my bank while I'm doing other
things. Far easer than trying to old a verbal conversation. With webchat,
either party is fine with the other not responding for a few minutes. The
bank staff might be looking up some details, I might be grabbing a cup of
coffee, etc, etc. And they can chat with more than one person at a time.
|
That's fine, but if you need to do something like return a
product and you get a run-around via email, it's nice to be
able to actually reach a human.


It's a human emailing, it's just easier than speaking. You don't have to be there at the same time.

| I haven't had trouble, either. I don't use AV or dubious
| products like MB.
|
| Why do you call it dubious?
|
| And do you seriously have no antivirus?!

I call it dubious because I once tried MB. It found 10 problems.
None of them were problems. One was my boot and disk imaging
program, BootIt. MB said it was malware. Several "problems"
were Regitry settings I had chosen. But MB wasn't explaining
the items. It even cooked up official sounding, scary names for
things that it falsely identified. So anyone using it needs to
know how to interpret the report and not let MB take action
otherwise.


I got about two. I identified them as programs I used for pirating software, checked them with virustotal, and gave malwarebytes a couple of exceptions. It's been quiet ever since, just removing some advertising cookies now and again.

No, I haven't used AV for a decade or more. I generally
just don't do risky things. and AV is of limited use.


They can get in without being risky. I've had viruses downloaded from genuine freeware sites that clearly weren't checking everything first.

So-called
zero-days -- malware that's not yet known -- can get
past AV. It was designed for a different time, when there
were just a few bugs and the file could be identified.


A different time?!

| computer! She's not dumb. She's a teacher. But the
| popup was convincing and she didn't know better.
|
| Giving someone you don't know $390 because something pops up on your
screen is monumentally dumb. She's a catastrophic failure.
|
| And why did you include "she's a teacher"? Teachers are among the
thickest people I've ever known. Hence the phrase "Those that can, do.
Those that can't, teach."
|
If you say so. She supervises student teachers and
was using DOS before I knew how to turn on a computer.
She's got a degree from Cornell and I only finished high
school. But she's just not a tech expert. Hopefully
you'll never get suckered and have to eat your words.
Someone doesn't have to be dumb to get suckered. Most
of these attacks are designed to scare people.


You have to have absolutely zero common sense to fall for what she did, you don't have to be technical, just sensible. She's an idiot. Those are the morons the scammers are after, and I don't really care. I knew a professor who could speak 17 languages and had 5 degrees, but she could break a computer in 10 seconds just trying to launch Microsoft Word.
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