PCbanter - View Single Post - OT - Looking for a simple explanation

**Diesel**

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Wed, 20 Mar
2019 04:01:18 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

David in Devon, Mon, 18 Mar 2019 19:57:18 GMT

Subject: OT - Looking for a simple explanation - Thunderbird

The simple explanation is that the owner has banned you from the
server.

He's actually well aware of that.

As far as I am aware, *anyone* is entitled to use the MyPlugBox
newsgroups *WITHOUT* the need to even _have_ a Username and
Password - it's purported to be a 'protected' environment but, in
reality, it is a free-for-all.

It is 'protected' when you can be banned. It is no longer a
'free-for-all' for you any more (now that you are banned).

Again, he's well aware of this.

These simple facts are not difficult to grasp.

They are for David. He feels that he has the absolute right to
continue accessing any server he likes, simply by creating a new user
id and/or changing IP address if that's required. He has no issues
with this, he's been doing it for years. Knowingly, committing
criminal computer trespass and theft of services.

Can anyone reading here use the MyPlugBox newsgroups *without* a
need to supply a username and password?

Yes. I am not banned.

That's correct. He has a problem with one or more individuals on the
server he's asking about. He wants to sucker someone into helping him
deal with that individual.

If so, how may the server owner have manipulated Thunderbird to
require me to have to supply them?

Your Thunderbird's requests to the server all receive an NNTP
'480' error response from the server, because you are banned.

Again, he's perfectly aware of the fact he's banned AND why. What
he's asking for, specifically, is how he might be able to figure out
how the server is identifying him so that he can get around it and
continue being a pest there.

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David in Devon, Mon, 18 Mar 2019 23:09:59 GMT

*HOW* can one obtain a Username and Password?

I expect that *you* (David in Devon) cannot. It is just their way
of banning you.

He'd like someone to contact the site admin and request a new login
account on his behalf. He'd then expect the said sucker to hand over
the information, so said sucker himself/herself can later be told to
**** off by the site admin when they eventually get caught providing
David another way onto the site.

If that is the case, armed with such information a server owner
could, I believe, carry out all kinds of nefarious activity. Do
you agree?

The owner has the absolute right to allow or disallow any guest
into his home and into his server. The principle is that "an
Englishman's home is his castle".

David disagrees. I can provide many posts from him clearly showing
his opinion on the matter. It's quite simple. If you run a server, he
has the god given right to access it, any damn time he likes, for any
reason he likes. You, as the site admin and possible hardware owner
do not have the right to tell him to **** off.

If you ban him, he feels he has the right to evade it; he doesn't
feel he's breaking any laws or causing any harm by doing so. If he
feels he has to create new accounts on your server to continue
accessing it, expect to be slimed about it on usenet and other
forums. And, as he's done here, expect him to try and recruit others
assistance to regain access to a site that's already told him to get
****ed on more than one occasion.

Either way, with David, as a site admin, you ****ing lose. If you
don't want him on your site, expect posts like the one you responded
to, with piles of slime about you, and the site to go along with it.
After all, if you don't tell David every single thing he wants to
know about you, he thinks your a bad guy and will stalk you. Oh, i'm
sorry, he'll call it investigating, but, in all actuality, it's
stalking. And trust me on this one, even if you ignore everything
else, you don't want him to be stalking you. It's no fun. He doesn't
believe in any form of privacy, except for his own. You are always
fair game and so are your loved ones. Even deceased family members
aren't off limits for him. You've been warned.

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