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Old March 21st 19, 02:49 AM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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Default OT - Looking for a simple explanation - Thunderbird

On 19/03/2019 21.01, David in Devon wrote:
On 19/03/2019 19:05, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 19/03/2019 12.56, David in Devon wrote:
On 19/03/2019 11:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 19/03/2019 00.09, David in Devon wrote:
On 18/03/2019 22:57, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 18/03/2019 22.46, David in Devon wrote:
On 18/03/2019 20:54, Big Al wrote:
On 3/18/19 3:57 PM, David in Devon wrote:
Following the detraction of the newsgroups which were hosted
hosted
on the Annex.com server for many years, some groups were
transferred
to a similar arrangement on the MyPlugBox.com server.

I've set up news.myplugbox.com as a news server on Thunderbird,
but
when I try to connect to the server to download the groups, I get
this pop-up asking for my Username and Password.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n70zlorf2w...2019.36.08.png





A similar pop-up occurs, when I use news.eternal-september.orq
but,
after I append my Username and Password once, I do not have to
do so
again.

As far as I am aware, *anyone* is entitled to use the MyPlugBox
newsgroups *WITHOUT* the need to even _have_ a Username and
Password
- it's purported to be a 'protected' environment but, in
reality, it
is a free-for-all.

Can anyone reading here use the MyPlugBox newsgroups *without* a
need
to supply a username and password?

If so, how may the server owner have manipulated Thunderbird to
require me to have to supply them?

When you setup the newsgroup there is a checkbox to determine if
you
need to login or not.Â* You have to set that up for no login
required.
Server settings-Security SettingsÂ*Â* I think.

Thanks Al :-)

You can see that I've left the appropriate tick-box unchecked:-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kdq9ufkiw6...2021.19.05.png




No, not the same thing. That's you (your thunderbird) requesting
authentication.Â* But the news server can demand authentication
from you
before allowing you in, which is what is happening (I guess).

And once entered, Th may remember the login/pass for ever if you tick
the box on your first photo.

*HOW* can one obtain a Username and Password?

Any clue, Carlos?

By requesting them from the site. Seriously. Or do you intend illegal
entry?

I believe it important to read posts from ALL participants in any thread
in order to garner the necessary background. Mike Easter has made some
valid points which you may care to review and, of course, my responses
to him.


I only see one post from Mike Easter in this thread, and no reply to it.


May I refer you to this thread on Google Groups?

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...op/6_GWCeyqRco


Ok.


Mike' made a number of posts in this thread, but most are confined to
'my' group - 'alt.computer.workshop'.

You can, of course, try the empty login/pass pair.

I did try. That does not work.

Perhaps you have sufficient knowledge to comment further. If I connect
to the myplugbox server, albeit through Thunderbird as a news server, I
suspect that the server owner can determine much about my computer in a
similar way to what's shown at THIS link:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20160424...al/tektest.php


So what?


Can you see that same info. page if you look on the www.tekrider.net
website? (rather than using archive.org as I had to do).


I don't see how that relates. It simply shows that the page removed
that information part at some point in time. It doesn't follow at all
any malice on the old page. I have seen several similar information
pages, some more complete. Example: http://webkay.robinlinus.com/


About the rest, nothing to comment from me.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
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