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Old January 30th 07, 09:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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I hear the price of a German car is higher in the US than in Germany.
What's up with that?


So don't buy a German car. there's plenty of other choices.
Microsoft's actions over the last 15 years have ensured there IS no
other choice for the vast majority of people - it's called
"monopoly".....

Interesting concept. A free operating system, against a operating
system you have to pay for, equals no choice.



Certainly up until recently, yes. Microsoft's actions ensured that OEMs,
which is where the vast majority of machines are sold, would suffer
drastic financial penalties if they sold machines with either no OS or a
competing one.....

Actually, the OEM's were eligible for greater discounts based on the
various conditions contained in their agreements. "Penalties" is implying
that they had to pay additional sums.


Well I suppose you /could/ look at it as a withdrawing of discount -
either way it would have had a drastic impact on the bottom line - and
that would have happened if they had sold just ONE machine.....


So, you agree that OEMs did it to gain a financial advantage over their
competitors.


No, OEMs were shanghied into it by MS.....
the way it worked was like this:
OEM to MS: We would like to sell Windows OS on our PCs
MS to OEM: Fine - we will sell you OEM licences as long as you agree to take
far more than you need, but at a ridiculously low price. IF however, you
deign to sell just one machine with either no OS or a competing one (ie
Linux) then that ridiculously low price suddenly becomes ridiculously
LARGE.....and you must still buy all the licences you contracted to buy....
That is why, up until recently, it was impossible to buy a machine from any
of the large OEMs with either no OS or one other than Windows...



Actually you are confusing OS licensing with the browser wars pricing
inducements. Some links and discussion at link below.

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/...m/602006680831

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