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Old January 12th 19, 07:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Significant Windows 10 1809 Crash.

Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/12/2019 1:18 PM, Paul wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
This afternoon I was writing a summary of my research and the system
crashed big time. I was using the Word Perfect X8 and had at least
one document open in the Adobe Reader Continuous release version
2019.010.20069. I had Firefox Version 64.0.2 open. First Adobe
froze, then the Firefox, and finally WordPerfect. The system came to
a complete stop, even the recover screen that said it was collect
information on the error froze.

I normally have these programs running with equivalent documents.
Some time I have Thunderbird also opens so I was not working in an
abnormal program environment.

I am running Window 10 1809 OS build 17763.253 on an HP laptop with
Intel i7-65000 CPU, 8 GB ram, and a 1TB disk.

I have no idea of the error codes as I said every thing froze, and I
had to do a hard restart. (Hold down the power button until it shut
off)

Is this a common occurrence with this Windows 10 build and are the
causes being investigated?


I have a game that crashes out to desktop, and the
Event Viewer has some sort of power event that correlates
with the failures. Hard to say what is cause, and what is
side effect. That never used to happen with my previous
(gutless) video card.

You can try looking in the Reliability Monitor and see if
the event got logged before you had to hit the power button.

Things like this can happen if the OS runs out of a resource...
even though the Task Manager "Memory" display shows it's not
railed into trouble (down to the last 350MB). You could have
a pool leak perhaps.

If you're lucky, something (Event Viewer?) might give
you a driver name to work with. The driver itself might
not be the culprit, if some other driver ate the resources
and "a neighbor" reported a problem.

Paul

Sorry I forgot the Event Viewer. There were four errors that occurred
about the time if the failure.

I don't have any idea of what it means. I do know I have used the same
combination of program and similar files and never had this problem
before. Since there are four errors I assume that one occurred when
Adobe froze, Word Perfect Froze, and Firefox froze. I don't remember
what the fourth program I had open was.

They were identical. Each stated

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-DistributedCOM
Date: 1/12/2019 12:45:55 PM
Event ID: 10016
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: LAPTOP\Keith Nuttle2
Computer: LAPTOP
Description:
The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local
Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
{2593F8B9-4EAF-457C-B68A-50F6B8EA6B54}
and APPID
{15C20B67-12E7-4BB6-92BB-7AFF07997402}
to the user LAPTOP\Keith Nuttle2 SID
(S-1-5-21-2958119282-3360191907-2581630708-1001) from address LocalHost
(Using LRPC) running in the application container Unavailable SID
(Unavailable). This security permission can be modified using the
Component Services administrative tool.
Event Xml:
Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"
System
Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-DistributedCOM"
Guid="{1B562E86-B7AA-4131-BADC-B6F3A001407E}" EventSourceName="DCOM" /
EventID Qualifiers="0"10016/EventID
Version0/Version
Level2/Level
Task0/Task
Opcode0/Opcode
Keywords0x8080000000000000/Keywords
TimeCreated SystemTime="2019-01-12T17:45:55.280775900Z" /
EventRecordID12204/EventRecordID
Correlation /
Execution ProcessID="512" ThreadID="1492" /
ChannelSystem/Channel
ComputerLAPTOP/Computer
Security UserID="S-1-5-21-2958119282-3360191907-2581630708-1001" /
/System
EventData
Data Name="param1"application-specific/Data
Data Name="param2"Local/Data
Data Name="param3"Activation/Data
Data Name="param4"{2593F8B9-4EAF-457C-B68A-50F6B8EA6B54}/Data
Data Name="param5"{15C20B67-12E7-4BB6-92BB-7AFF07997402}/Data
Data Name="param6"LAPTOP/Data
Data Name="param7"Keith Nuttle2/Data
Data
Name="param8"S-1-5-21-2958119282-3360191907-2581630708-1001/Data
Data Name="param9"LocalHost (Using LRPC)/Data
Data Name="param10"Unavailable/Data
Data Name="param11"Unavailable/Data
/EventData
/Event


This article says "donchu worry"

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...windows-server

But of course it's a symptom of something.

Maybe a dependency of COM stopped working, and that's
where the errors are coming from. But something with "LRPC"
in the name would be pretty critical. The OS really cannot
run if Remote Procedure Call isn't working (virtually every
service will list that as a dependency), and LRPC
sounds like a Local version of RPC (intended to stay on-node).

The original reason for having RPC handle "everything" was to
make it seem to software like the procedure calls were
one large continuum, rather than if-then-else and treating
local procedure calls differently. If that's what I think
that is, that's a backward evolutionary step.

Paul
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