I'm on the beta "Jupiter". beta.microsoft.com. I was one of the earliest
beta testers. You think I'm "out of the loop" or that I think I'm a cool
beta tester because I downloaded a publicly available service pack when in
fact I've been testing Lonestar and the SDK since it was first available.
I've had lunch with the Tablet PC developers. So I very much consider myself
a beta tester.

You seem to be missing my point. There is no NDA. It's a EULA. I didn't sign
anything. I clicked an "agree" button. And the terms that I agreed to don't
prohibit me from talking about it in this group so long as I am not publicly
divulging previously undisclosed features -- of which there are none.

How did you guys become MVP's anyway? You're not very helpful.

--
Josh Einstein
Einstein Technologies
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"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Josh;
"I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call
it"
Which is it?
They are two different programs with two different purposes.
If you have no NDA, you are not part of the Beta.
The Technical Preview currently has offered RC 1 & RC 2 of SP 2.
That does not make you a Beta tester.
You and your organization may consider you a Beta tester but that
would be strictly internal to you.
To use the two different terms here as if they are synonymous when
they are not does nothing but add to the confusion.
Since you seem to lack the knowledge of the difference it seems you
are on the Technical Preview as all Beta testers would clearly know
and distinguish the difference.

To clarify, exactly how did you become involved with the
Beta/Technical Preview and to what extent?

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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Josh Einstein" wrote in message
...
1) I said Lonestar, not Longhorn. Lonestar was being actively
discussed
including the new TIP, new SDK, etc in these newsgroups for months.

2) Don't confuse a EULA with a NDA. They are two different things
entirely.
NDA's are legally binding, EULAs are not. The worst that can happen
with a
EULA is your software license is terminated.

3) The provision in the EULA for non-disclosure is about new
features. Since
SP2 was feature complete by the first RC, we are all at liberty to
talk
about any version.

4) I never said I was not in the beta newsgroups. I simply said I'm
not
prohibited from talking about it on here. I have been on the beta,
technical
preview whatever you want to call it since it was first available to
those
outside Microsoft. I am not talking about the public beta.

--
Josh Einstein
Einstein Technologies