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Old January 30th 09, 03:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Bill in Co.
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Default Using Casper 5 disk-cloning program to clone multi-partitioned HDD

WaIIy wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:04:51 -0700, "Bill in Co."
wrote:

Mike Torello wrote:
"Bill in Co." wrote:

Mike Torello wrote:
"Bill in Co." wrote:

Again... download and take the time to digest the material in the
user
guide. It is quite simple to follow - easier than one of Anna's
treatises... and might even include less text.

Too simple, to the point of being a bit too simplistic, although the
general
ideas are covered.

I'm talking about what partition copying IS, or is NOT. I've used
ATI,
BING, and PM, so I think I've got a pretty good understanding of the
*underlying concepts* here which have nothing to do with the specific
program being used, except as to which technique is or is not being
used.

You can keep this conversation alive if you like. I am satisfied that
the partition copying results in an IDENTICAL copy.

Pony up the bucks, try it out and report back if/when you find
differently. Until then all you can do is guess - and continue to
qualify your guesses with the disclaimer that you've never used the
program.

Actually, it won't take any guessing if you (or whoever) just check it
out
yourself.

To see if it is a bonafide sector-by-sector partition copy, look at the
sizes of the two partitions (i.e., on the source and destination drive)
after the operation is complete. And also look at the copied folder
date
and time stamps, and see if they are the same as on the source
partition.
A true generational copy will also maintain the original folder and
subfolder dates, in addition to the sizes of the partitions themselves
(note: size of the partition, and NOT the amount of the data inside;
BIG
difference there).

You are wrong again (who woulda thunk it!?). A partition/disk can be
cloned with the resulting clone being either larger, smaller or the
same size as the original.


That is NOT a partition copy, at the disk sector level. They are not
identical.

Also, did you, or did you not, check the folder dates on the destination
drive, to see if they were identical to those on the source drive
partition?
I notice you didn't address that, and it would be useful to know. You
could easily check it in windows explorer.


I just checked and my C drive C:\Windows folder is dated June 20, 2008
1:48 PM and so is my C:\Windows on my backup, cloned drive.


I am NOT talking about the case of cloning a source drive, which makes a
perfect clone of the source drive.

I *am* talking about partition copying, apparently called "Copy Drive" in
Casper. Like the case mentioned where the source drive partition size was
supposedly 27 GB *in capacity* and the destination drive partition was
supposedly 37 GB in capacity (and NOT the amount of DATA).

Both types of information (disk partition capacity and used data space) can
be determined by using Windows Explorer with a right mouse click on the
drive letter in windows explorer and reading the information there.

And presumably there ARE different folder AND subfolder dates of the folders
on the destination drive (which I am saying will all be date stamped with
the date the copy is made!). THAT is what specifically needs to be
checked.

UNLESS both the source and destination partitions are identical in SIZE
(meaning capacity) and all folder/subfolder datetime stamps, they are NOT
really identical.


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