"Arlen H. Holder"
news alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

I dual boot Windows/Ubuntu because Ubuntu 18.04 natively provides
simultaneous full and complete read and write access to the
entire visible file system of Windows, Android, and iOS.

You should not be using Linux to write to an NTFS file system if you
can avoid doing so...It's best to let Windows manage it's own file
system as far as writes are concerned.

However, I'm mostly on Windows, where, unfortunately, Windows
natively will NOT read the default Linux file system (neither will
the Mac).

Windows won't out of the box, no. But, you have options to give it
that functionality. I strongly recommend that you ONLY use it for
READING your NTFS partitions while under linux. NOT writing to them,
unless you have no other choice. As in, you forgot your windows
password and aren't comfortable editing the sam file yourself to
void the password and let you back into your machine.

The NTFS file system has gone through revisions throughout the years
and it's a closed source proprietary file system. Any access to it,
reading and/or writing by 3rd party apps not officially licensed by
Microsoft is done via reverse engineering efforts alone.

No, having the leaked source code to windows 2000 will not help you
write a universal linux based ntfs partition read/writing driver.
Windows 2000 NTFS and Windows XP for example ARE different. Vista
and up is that much more.

Thanks to Aragorn on the Linux newsgroup, I found out today that
both Windows and the Mac will easily read/write the Linux native
filesystem if you load free software to do so (some of which is
even open source).

To that end, today I quickly tested these Windows solutions below:
1. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
2. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/Ext2fsd/0.69/
3. https://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/

How long have you been using computers did you say?

Specifically, I downloaded, extracted & ran these 3 executables:
1.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/files/latest/download
2.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/latest/download
3. https://www.diskinternals.com/download/Linux_Reader.exe

Here is my initial first-pass quick-test assessment, for your
benefit, of those three solutions, where I ask anyone with
*experience* using any of these three programs to access their
dual-boot Linux partitions, to further our combined tribal
knowledge.

I have extensive experience using them along with my own custom
written software....Primarily developed to assist in data recovery
for NTFS based file systems.

*ext2fsd*
This automatically creates a drive letter for your Linux
filesystem. The GUI was kind of miserable (e.g., it wouldn't even
resize properly). I'm sure it can do the stated task, but it has a
steep learning curve.

Define steep?

*LinuxReader*
I kind of like the GUI of the last one the best, at least upon 1st
use. It presents your Linux and Windows disks in a familiar "My
Computer" style. When you want to copy a file from Linux to
Windows, you just hit "Save".

You'd be better off using another drive, formatted in an OS
universal friendly file system, say fat32. and swap your files
between those OSEs using that. Instead of placing your NTFS file
system in harms way each time you issue a write command do it from
outside of Windows.

Really, all joking aside, ask some other tech background people
(especially data recovery experts) the game of russian roulette your
not only playing by writing to your NTFS partition(s) under linux,
but encouraging others to do so.

Let Windows manage NTFS, Don't expect that of Linux. It'll do it's
best, but it could cost you everything on the NTFS partition if (a)
you don't have reliable backups and (b) know next to nothing of file
systems internal structures (Based on your usenet posts so far, it's
a safe bet you couldn't rebuild a wrecked NTFS file system without
considerable hand holding and software recommendations.)

Since the price of freeware is the effort it takes to find the
best ones, my quick test clearly indicates I should likely first
spend my learning efforts on the "LinuxReader" and to ditch the
other two (unless there's a reason I learn later to do otherwise).

Are you using these newsgroups as your own personal playground to
bounce ideas around or something? You chastise and ridicule various
posters when you ask for their advice/help, yet, act like such a
****ing n00b with posts like this one.

Not only n00b attitude, but very BAD advice being offered.

For those who aren't as dumb as Arlen and know a thing or two about
that box sitting in front of them, please, if you care about the
data on your Windows partition(s), don't issue very many write
commands to them from any particular Linux distro. You should write
very conservatively outside of Windows and ONLY when necessary.

Otherwise, let Windows write to it's own file system. If you feel
you must be able to share between both, since you're dual booting.
Create a fat32 partition. They can both, SAFELY read and write to it
without presenting any risk to the data on it or other partitions.

PS: Was there a particular reason you crossposted this thread to all
of these newsgroups:

alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7 .general,alt.comp.freeware

And intentionally set the followup to:
Followup-To: alt.comp.os.windows-10

Doing that could easily give one or more people (myself included)
the impression you're trolling for attention, again?

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