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Old July 22nd 18, 03:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default telephone hackers - can we upload something?

Mayayana wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote

| He seems to be talking about a landline, which is what many of us are
| using. Nomorobo characterizes VOIP as a landline, but they're of no
| use for an actual landline.
|
| https://nomorobo.zendesk.com/hc/en-u...-does-it-work-
|
| Depends on whether your telco support simultaneous ring. The telco must
| ring BOTH your phone and NoMoRobo at the same time.

Am I missing something? I have a landline. There's
no computer connection. It's not VOIP. It's just a wire
coming into the house.


Twisted pair POTS telco service.

So how is the phone company
going to ring nomorobo?


By the telco doing simultaneous ring to both your phone AND to the
NoMoRobo phone number. Your telco rings 2, or more, numbers if they
support simultaneous ringing.

I assume nomorobo has to
be installed to a compter (VOIP) or cellphone.


Nope, absolutely no software is needed nor can any be used. With
simultaneous ringing, your phone provider (cellular, landline, VOIP,
whatever) rings multiple phone numbers at the SAME time hence the name
of this feature. For example, because Google Voice supports
simultaneous ringing, I can have it ring my home phones (2), work phone,
and all my cell phones. With my ISP (Comcast), their voice (not VOIP)
service can also do simultaneous ringing, so that duplicates the same
PBX-like feature in Google Voice. The only reasons why I have not
switched from Google Voice to my ISP's voice service a Google Voice
is free (I need to pay my ISP for their voice service) and Google Voice
employs an anti-spam blacklist but not my ISP's voice service.

I use NoMoRobo with my cell phone because my cellular carrier (Verizon)
supports simultaenous ring. My aunt uses NoMoRobo with her ISP's voice
service because they support simultaneous ring. The requirements to use
NoMoRobo a (1) Your phone provider must support simultaneous ring;
and, (2) You must be able to configure your phone account to add
NoMoRobo as one of the phone numbers that are simultaneous ring. You
need the feature at your phone provider and you need to add whatever
numbers you want simultaneously rang. It's a configuration thing. No
software.

The only other way I could imagine this working on
a landline would be if I arranged with my phone company
to call nomorobo every time I get a call. That would
be far more creepy than getting spam calls.


Yep, that is what the simultaneous ring feature does: call multiple
phone numbers. For example, you don't even need to use this feature
just for NoMoRobo. You could have calls to your home phone also
simultaneously ring at your workplace. That way, you don't miss calls
at home while you are at work; else, your home phone callers would have
to leave voicemail because you're not there when you're at work.

Some telephony providers call it call forwarding instead of simultaneous
ring. The Caller ID info is sent between the 1st and 2nd rings. Since
NoMoRobo gets called at the same time as, say, your landline it will
also get the Caller ID info. They don't care about the name info, just
the phone number info from Caller ID (plus some providers only forward
the phone number info in Caller ID but not a name). So, yes, with
simultaneous ringing, multiple phones get called. That's the point of
this feature. One of those phones could be your home phone (landline).
Another could be your work phone number. Another could be NoMoRobo.

From what I've read, the phone providers that in NoMoRobo's list have
scripts written at NoMoRobo to assist you in completing the setup.
Different providers have different methods of enabling simultaneous ring
along with adding a phone number to the list. If not in the list, you
have to figure out how to enable simultaneous ring at your phone
provider and how to add phone numbers to that list whether they be your
work phone, cell phone, or NoMoRobo.
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