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Old July 6th 19, 07:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Robert in CA
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Default Win7 support:

On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 8:39:14 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:16:15 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe
2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe
3) "Prepare media for another computer".
4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file.
5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished.
6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive.
7) Boot the DVD-R.
8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive.
9) A couple of screens into the install process, it
will ask for a license key.
10) Enter the key.
11) Finish the install of Windows 10.
12) Verify it is activated.
13) Put original drive back in the 8500.

I tried running the media creation tool:

http://i68.tinypic.com/f0dweb.jpg "Create installation media..."

http://i68.tinypic.com/256y7hl.jpg (Language selection etc)

http://i68.tinypic.com/nlzhhl.jpg ISO file choice

http://i64.tinypic.com/33090cl.jpg (windows.iso in Documents folder)

http://i66.tinypic.com/2eqdnaf.jpg Errroor 0x8007139F - 0x90019

In passing here's the DVD-R, that
looks like the old style reel to
reel's. Pretty cool looking I think.

http://i65.tinypic.com/23vchsj.jpg

Robert
¡Ay, caramba! (denotes pain or surprise)

I do hope you've logged in using your Administrator account.

That's not what the error ( "0x8007139F - 0x90019" ) says by the way.

I can't find that error.

*******

We'll need help from the logfiles. These two files
can be dropped onto an open copy of Notepad.

https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/m...0072f76-20017/

C:\EWindows.~WS\Sources\Panther

setuperr.log

setupact.log

You can see a representation here, if my output
from MediaCreationTool1903.exe . I shut down this
VM while the Win10 ISO was downloading, to "simulate an error".

https://i.postimg.cc/9M43zQRp/logfiles-in-Notepad.gif

The logfiles really aren't that helpful, unless
by accident they blurt out the actual error!

Try to collect any information you can get from
there, that you feel is relevant.

You don't have to do a new run yet - just have
a look at the files first, before they're overwritten.

Paul
Yes, I was logged in as Administrator. I tried it once
but got to a point where it said it required administrator
account. So I switched users and logged in as Administrator.

I'm not sure what you want me to do
at this point? I went to the link
provided but am confused what I am
suppose to do? Do I run Win 10 update
repair tool and then download it?

I have no idea what would be relevant even if I saw it.

Robert




In passing I ran a Smart scan on the 780
recently and it said that my Firefox was
out of date along with other programs.So
I went into FirefoxhelpAbout Firefox
and updated it but then it asked me to
provide a password to keep it in sync. I
didn't know what that was so backed out.
However I got two messages on the 8500
that the Firefox password had changed.

How can that be? I didn't touch the 8500.
and the 780 doesn't seem different and I
didn't know what programs were outdated
as it didn't specify.

Robert


You've got me beat on the Firefox. Here is some text.

"When using Sync, your Firefox Accounts login is
stored with your saved passwords in the password manager.

Your master password must be entered so Sync can
access your Firefox Accounts login. Once the
master password has been entered, Sync can also
access your other saved passwords and sync them
between your devices."

You appear to be passing passwords between the two
computers by using some sort of storage on the Mozilla site.

I *never* follow any prompts presented in Firefox. Sales
pitches are totally ineffective on me.

*******

As for the situation on our little Win10 Digital Entitlement
goes, Google is giving me no help at all.

I could come up with a means to get the "too large" version
of Windows 10, but then that needs dual layer media. And not
even *I* will stoop to such stupidity. If Windows 10 required
me to buy dual-layer media, Windows 10 would not be in my
computer room... It's that simple.

I noticed something else while analyzing the situation:

11 OS version (too big)

Win10_1903_V1_English_x64.iso 4,939,528,192 bytes (needs dual layer DVD)

install.wim inside... === everyone gets the same file
The DVD can be obtained using a Torrent.

SHA256: 9846DFBDD7C39EB8D025E0F28E180C6F4084ECF87ECD11805C D19C205F7A3B4E

And using that checksum, I could get a torrent with that on it.
Except it's unfit for the DVDs in hand!

The MediaCreationTool1903 version:

7 OS version (fits a single layer DVD)

Win10-64bit-mediacreation-1903-7OSes.iso 3,967,483,904 bytes

install.esd inside... === everyone gets a *different* file.
Computing a SHA256 is useless.

There is *no way* to validate a torrented version as
being authentic. Shades of Windows 8 nightmares.

The ESD doesn't appear to be encrypted, but some strings
inside the file are probably generated on-the-fly by the
preparation tool. This means there is no way to prove the
authenticity.

*******

I can find *no* authoritative error code listing.

0x8007139F - 0x90019

That could be related to Windows Update. But the second
number is important too. What error is that ?

Only the two log files might give us a hint now.

*******

Why have these people *insisted* on turning something
simple, into an "IT project" ????

"Here, let's take something simple and make it
complicated. Heh heh heh."

Maybe it's a filter to make sure that only IT experts
get a copy of Windows 10 ?

I have a recipe to turn the 11 OS version into a 1 OS version,
which fits on a DVD. Again, it was never my intention to
"torture you" with one of my recipes. This was supposed
to be a simple project.

*******

What we *can* do, is fetch a *stale* copy of Windows 10,
and you can use that for install. Now, how pleasant is that ?

DVD+R 4,700,372,992 bytes \___ capacity of your media
DVD-R 4,700,000,000 bytes /

Most likely Heidoc values on size.

These are the sizes of files with consistent checksums.

1903 x64 4,939,528,192 bytes
1809 x64 5,075,539,968 bytes (last version) 11 OS version
3,849,388,032 bytes (first version) 7 OS version
1803 x64 4,692,365,312 bytes You can see how close to the limit this is!!!
1709 x64 4,697,362,432 bytes
1703 x64 4,334,315,520 bytes
1511 x64 4,017,000,448 bytes

Using your web browser, load the *First* link here, which is
for the x64 version of release 1809. The download should
be 3,849,388,032 bytes. I generated this link using the Heidoc
URL generator.

https://software-download.microsoft....b2 07c49fa8d4

https://software-download.microsoft....cd 74bf365234

Link valid for 24 hours
Link expires 7/7/2019 3:25:08AM UTC

There's no guarantee this is going to work, so
it could be a waste of a DVD and of your bandwidth.

It's either this, or analyze logfiles...

Paul




The only password I use on FF is my Administration
password but I don't recall having to sign-on to
sync my computers with my User Account and the
Username is different on both computers so how
could one affect the other?

Regarding Win10, as you say; I thought this was
going to be a simple straight forward procedure
but I see its turning into another problem like
finding the drivers or the file to stop the pop-
up.

I'm thinking that the guys who design cars are
now designing computers so they'll break, come up
with errors or lead down a treacherous path
with no verification that its valid.

I'm just trying to follow your suggestion in
obtaining a Win 10 key if and when I ever need it
but will stay with Win 7 Pro as long as possible.

I followed your instructions and downloaded the
first link which is for 64bit:

http://i64.tinypic.com/25rf7eb.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/2lm58r6.jpg

I inserted a DVD-R but says there's not enough room,
what am I suppose to be using? What am I doing wrong?


Thanks,
Robert


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