In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 05 Jul 2020 15:05:42 -0400, Pat
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 09:59:04 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:54:41 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Wade Garrett" wrote

| If you buy one that prevents you from posting on usenet anymore, I bet a
| number of the folks in the news groups you regularly pollute would
| gladly help pay for it ;-)

I'm guessing they won't have to. Micky seems to
be more than happy to pay for an expensive gaming
PC if that might make it easier for him to avoid paying
attention to what he's doing.

I want to get 16gigs ram and the possibility of adding more later, so
does that mean I want a gaming computer? I'd like a fast cpu too, I
think.

I'm willing to spend 1000 if I have to. (I haven't bought a new
computer since my PCJr.)

But this one refurbished for only 420 or 442 seems pretty good. It was
recommended here by Johnny who has one.
https://www.newegg.com/hp-prodesk-60...scrollFullInfo

But I thought I read here that HP was to be avoided. Anyone think
that's true?

TIA

Like others, I have had good luck with HP. My cuurent PC is very
similar to that one. I like i5's because they use less power (and
therefore run cooler) than i7's and my computer is on 24/7.

My worry is the word "refurbished". If it was returned because
someone didn't know how to use it - no problem. If it was returned
because it had a very obvious hard failure - no problem. But if it
was returned because it had an intermittent problem - you are buying
someone else's infuriating intermittent problem just to save few
bucks. I did that once and spent a lot of time chasing down a bad
part. Once fixed, it was fine, but I swore I would never buy another
reburbished PC unless I could find out why it was returned.

I see your points about refurbiished, and the one above isn't the only
refurbished one I looked at.

But the one above is rather interesting. It seems like it's pretty
old**, that maybe the company that used it swapped a whole bunch out for
something newer, but that is strange too. It's an i5 that runs at
3.2G.. would a new one be much faster? And it has 16Gig RAM (some sold
elsewhere have 8gig and some 64gig (at least now.) Maybe they replaced
one or two hdd's, one with the SSD and one with a bigger HDD So maybe
it was working fine after several years of use when replaced by the
corporate owners.

**It has PS2 ports for the mouse and keyboard, and it has a serial port
(a male 9-pin port.) Neither of those have been seen for years, right?