On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 20:07:38 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

"Diesel" wrote

| the command line isn't outdated. It's still quite useful and very
| handy. In some instances you can do more quicker with the console than
| you can with the mouse. It's just not for everyone.
|

I click the DownloadHelper icon on the Firefox
toolbar. The alternative with youtube-dl
is to open a console window, type the incantation,
then copy and paste the URL from Firefox or
whatever other source. Then where did it download
the file to? Who knows? I'll have to read the vast
command line switch docs to figure that out.

You can read, right?

It can easily be the same way with a GUI system. Where did the
GUI program stick the file?

It's ridiculous. If some people are still fond
of conole that's OK, but they're not just
fond of it. Console is a retro fetish. The result
is that the 95% of people who want things
simple and easy are out of luck. There's just
no excuse for not making a GUI version these
days. Command line should be the afterthought,
the custom version for the few people who
want it.

Nope.

If I am creating a program, I will be working on implementing the
algorithm first. If I can get that going, then I work on the user
interface. If I can not get the basic program going, then the user
interface is irrelevant.

Command line is very useful. There are many things that I use it
for that a GUI would make quite awkward.

I use both command line and GUI. I like having more than one
tool.

By not creating a GUI version a large
percentage of people are blocked from being
able to use the software at all. It's just too
technically challenging. The reaction from the
console fetishists is that those people are suffering
justly due to their own stupidity.

Some people do. I do not.

There is a lot of promotion of how difficult it is to use the
command line. Consequently, some people never look.

I have no trouble figuring out a console program,
but unless it's absolutely the only option I never
will. For the same reason that I use a key to start
my car and haven't built in a crank to use instead.

I will use a useful tool regardless of how old (or unfashionable
or ...) it might be.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko