That's for wimps.

Use
http://netscan.research.microsoft.co...=6%2F13%2F2004

Though like all MS web sites it is slow and faulty. (it takes 10 minutes to load the page like nearly all MS web pages do)

Walter doesn't seem as active as he has been in the past.

But lets spy a bit more.

Would you trust this face? (which leads on to why are ALL MVPs ugly?, this is the best looking one)

If you want to spy on me
http://netscan.research.microsoft.co...=6%2F13%2F2004

Or Jax
http://netscan.research.microsoft.co...=6%2F13%2F2004
(although she seems to be unable to keep a consistant email address)

And for you
http://netscan.research.microsoft.co...=6%2F13%2F2004


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"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message ...
JAX check this out
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...on&btnG=Search
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Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"JAX" wrote in message
...
Hi Walter,

To tell the truth, I don't really recall hearing anything from you, but if
you carry the title "MVP'" and it is not earned, someone will be jumping
on
you with both feet. I don't agree with the approach of "Unknown P", but
the
subject of spyware, scumware, hijackers, etc. has been worn out in the
newsgroups for the past several months. Windows offers, pretty much, all
the
pointers you need when you go to updates. It is something like, "protect
your computer 1,2,3".

I visit the XP newsgroups and follow the advice of the MVP's, as well as
other responders who have something to say that I consider credible. A
year
or more ago, I deleted my "canned" responses to posts about spyware, etc.
I
became tired of reading posts about the same problem that was posted two
lines down in the group.

I think you will agree, most posters get to the groups for the first time
via the XP Help and Support function on their computer, using CDO. There
is
a FAQ's available there, but it is rather obscure and very limited. Not to
mention, it is not updated frequently.

Chris's post will "time-out" in a few days, and even before then, it will
move so far down the line in posts that the people who would have
questions
about such a common problem will not scroll down/up to see it. I would
like
to see MS add to its Help and Support site, an improved FAQ's link that
would be more in tune with current problems people are having. They would,
no doubt, have to have a relatively small crew to monitor the XP groups to
determine what customers were having problems with and to come up with
appropriate answers, but I think it would be within the resources of MS
and
a way of promoting customer relations.

FWIW, JAX


"Walter Clayton" wrote in message
...
New promotional program. Yes, Chris is legit MS.

Use the feed back link, it won't bite. ;-)

FWIW, I picked the topic of spyware for the simple reason that it's
gotten
totally out of hand. 100% of my personal business the last 6 months has
been
nothing but crapware cleanup. And generally I was called for what the
client
thought was a completely unrelated reason.

FYI: The major AV vendors are starting to step up to plate. The only
issue
is how broadly they'll address such "innocuous" things as Gator/Claria
vs.
VX2 and the cool web search crap.

Now if we can just get MS to step into the fray officially, with both
feet,
with proper tools to facilitate removing the nasties via 3rd party or MS
tools rather than having to rely on tricks I have up my selves courtesy
of
hands on experience and other folks.......

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Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
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"JAX" wrote in message
...
Harry,

I recognize your name. I don't remember ever seeing the name of Cris
Norred
in any of the XP groups I haunt. Do you know him/her? Why would this
person
be posting CDO?

Dubiously, JAX

"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
"The Unknown P" ( ) wrote in message
...
How in God's name do you think this is going to differ from the
numerous
NG's and the posts pertaining to this topic. In short this is not
only
a
waste of space but a little redundant as we have been dealing with
thousands of questions pertaining to spyware\adware for years. If
this
supposed eXPert has anything to add he or she can feel free to
answer
the
questions posted in any number of these NG's as the rest of us
unrecognized or unheralded individuals do. Please don't go out of
your
way
for us or the general public. Like any of the people who reply to
these
NG's it is at our conveniance and we certainly don't need your
majesty
to
point this out to us. }:~)
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There are three types of people in computing, those that can count
and
those that can't.


Who dumped in your Cheerio's this morning?. There are any number of
non
Microsoft newsgroups on Usenet that you can post your valuable
knowledge
to.
If you dislike the way that Microsoft wishes to use their groups then
perhaps you should just move on over.

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Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp