Arlen _G_ Holder wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2019 17:07:55 -0600, *Hemidactylus* wrote:

But I do recall something about Bonjour and its zeroconf
stuff being chatty over a network which was being logged by my software
firewall and was disconcerting until I figured out that was just more
expressed functionality.

Hi Hemidactylus,

Adults do two things which are important:
a. Adults comprehend facts;
b. Adults assess those facts (using logic, and reason).

Regarding having more functionality WITHOUT Bonjour, than with it,
Linux has no problem "seeing" an iPad for both read & write to and from the
entire iOS visible file system (even down to system files) where this
thread is always about unjailbroken devices.

Basically, you plug the iPad into the PC and the iPad becomes a USB stick.
o For free. With no additional software other than the installed native OS.

As for "Bonjour", the first thing we have to warn people about is that
Apple never tested the iTunes amalgamation, which was proven in spades
recently, detailed here, so, just installing iTunes is a security risk.
o A zero-day vulnerability in iCloud and iTunes on Windows PCs allowed
hackers to install ransomware undetected.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/xVu_O8Qeyss

In that situation, you're better off WITHOUT Bonjour, than with it; but
let's see what Bonjour does for us, as, well, how many people don't know
that Quicktime, for example, was 'enforced' which is a classic hallmark of
patently unnecessary bloatware, where I always removed it when I could.

Worse, as I recall, none of this additional bloatware that came with the
Windows iTunes ever respected your request of where to put it, which is,
again, clearly the mark of untested software & sophomoric coding standards.

o Slimming down the bloated iTunes installer
https://www.zdnet.com/article/slimming-down-the-bloated-itunes-installer/
"How do you supersize a simple music manager? Ask Apple. The Windows
version of iTunes ...[includes] kernel-mode drivers, multiple system
services, and at least one add-in. It takes a supersize helping of chutzpah
to create an ad that criticizes Windows for its "bloat" and then deliver an
upgrade with as much unnecessary junk as this one. If you're like most
people, you don't need any of that additional junk."

o The unofficial guide to installing iTunes without bloatware
https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-unofficial-guide-to-installing-itunes-10-without-bloatware/

o Avoid iTunes Bloat With the Windows Store Version
https://www.howtogeek.com/352307/avoid-itunes-bloat-with-the-windows-store-version/

o Step-by-Step Guide to Installing iTunes Without Extra Bloatware
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/28727/how-to-install-itunes-without-extra-bloat/

o How to Install iTunes without Bloatware
https://geekermag.com/install-itunes-without-bloatware-windows-10/

o Do I really need Bonjour on Windows?
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/45765/do-i-really-need-bonjour-on-windows

o How to remove extra iTunes components
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/06/12/how-to-remove-extra-itunes-components-on-windows/

o What is Bonjour
https://www.shouldiremoveit.com/Bonjour-5056-program.aspx

Bonjour is Apple's implementation of the open-source Zeroconf, a multicast
DNS responder used to discover services on a local area network. It's
installed by default with the iTunes download and also installed silently
with some Adobe products, a decision that "freaked out" some Adobe
customers. Adding unauthorized peer-to-peer services on a corporate network
is a distinct no-no, as a number of customers have told Apple on their
support forums. (The response? Crickets.) If you want to share iTunes
libraries over a network or use Apple TV, you need Bonjour. If you have a
printer attached to an AirPort device, you should use Bonjour. However, if
you simply want to play media files and sync your iTunes library with your
iPod, you don't need Bonjour. (And Photoshop users can safely remove it as
well unless they have a Version Cue server on their network.)

Apple installs a _lot_ more unnecessary bloatware with iTunes, but since
you only brought up Bonjour, it seems to be, upon quick inspection, a
completely unnecessary, unwanted, probably proprietary Apple implementation
of an existing open standard that likely works far better WITHOUT Bonjour,
than with Bonjour.

Do others who know more than I do about Bonjour concur with this quick
assessment of the "value" of Bonjour, over NOT having Bonjour, to a typical
user who just wants to 'stream music', as Hemidactylus stated?

TLDR. Adults know how to best prioritize their time. Replying to you shows
a flaw of immaturity on my part. Grownups have you kill-filtered.