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the two logitech mice in the example *you* gave below have a difference
of 17 grams.

Yep, you keep wanting to omit battery weight. Very consistent.

what's consistent is your inability to read and understand specs and
that you continue to lie about what i said.

*you* cited this mouse:
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/bluetooth-mouse-m557?crid=7
Mouse Weight (including battery): 3.77 oz (107 g)

see where it says 'including battery'? guess what that means. take as
much time as you need.

for reference, the wired mouse *you* also cited:
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/mouse-m100
Mouse Weight: 3.17 oz (90 g)

you also snipped the example where i explicitly added the weight of the
batteries:

here's a bluetooth mouse that's 66 grams w/o batteries:
https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-atheris

aa lithium batteries weigh 15g each:
http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/l91.pdf

the mouse + two aa batteries is 96 grams, or just 6 grams heavier than
the logitech wired mouse you cited.




yes, it's tiny, and with that brings compromises, but you were only
focused on weight, not run time or anything else. no goalpost moving
allowed.

Which was your tactic: compare miniature with normal size, and don't
compare same-size mice using different technologies.

you said wireless mice are heavier. i said not necessarily.

some are and some aren't.

it is *not* a given that a wireless mouse will always be heavier.

you continued to argue, so i looked for the lightest wireless mouse i
could find.

here's a *wired* gaming mouse that's heavier than all of the mice that
have been mentioned:
https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga-hex-v2
€ Approximate weight: 135 g / 0.30 lbs with cable

it definitely does not weigh 'far more'.

It does once you add the batteries.

nope.

the weight of the batteries are *included* in the example *you* gave:
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/bluetooth-mouse-m557?crid=7
Mouse Weight (including battery): 3.77 oz (107 g)

for the second example, the razer atheris, i explicitly *added* the
weight of the batteries.

many bluetooth mice use an internal lithium ion rechargeable battery,
so there aren't any batteries to add.

there is no need for a bluetooth dongle since bluetooth is built into
most laptops and many desktops.

Whoosh. I was being complete in calculating the actual weight of ONLY
the Bluetooth mouse. The USB transceiver dongle *is* included with the
Bluetooth mouse whether you use it or not.

except when it isn't.

again, the mouse *you* cited:
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/bluetooth-mouse-m557?crid=7
PACKAGE CONTENTS
Logitech Bluetooth Mouse M557
2 AA batteries
Documentation

do you see bluetooth adapter included? no. you don't, because it isn't.

no mention of a bluetooth adapter included he
https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-atheris

one of the advantages of a bluetooth mouse is *not* needing an adapter.